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	<title>Comments on: Four Pillars: On trust and sharing</title>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/06/07/four-pillars-on-trust-and-sharing/comment-page-1/#comment-505</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 13:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, as I should expect from you, Malc. When I say &quot;as far as I can throw them&quot; I never imply &quot;up to a point&quot;. When I use the phrase, I mean &quot;not at all&quot;. Binary.

Being trusted &quot;up to a point&quot; is like being half-pregnant, half-married, half-unique. Trust is a bond within a relationship, a bond that can&#039;t be broken down into smaller segments.

You can have authorisation levels and credit limits and all that stuff segmented, but I think it has nothing to do with trust. It has to do with empowerment.

I like the trust knowledge bit, but only after removing the granular bits. It is not a transfer of responsibility, but a sharing. In economic terms, I reckon we can call trust an extreme nonrival good, as Rishab Aiyer Ghosh would term it. It does not lose value when shared or replicated. In fact I would go further, trust increases the value of the trust-pair.

As we face a war for talent, trust is going to get even more important. You don&#039;t trust me, then don&#039;t hire me. If you trust me then trust me. Don&#039;t play games with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, as I should expect from you, Malc. When I say &#8220;as far as I can throw them&#8221; I never imply &#8220;up to a point&#8221;. When I use the phrase, I mean &#8220;not at all&#8221;. Binary.</p>
<p>Being trusted &#8220;up to a point&#8221; is like being half-pregnant, half-married, half-unique. Trust is a bond within a relationship, a bond that can&#8217;t be broken down into smaller segments.</p>
<p>You can have authorisation levels and credit limits and all that stuff segmented, but I think it has nothing to do with trust. It has to do with empowerment.</p>
<p>I like the trust knowledge bit, but only after removing the granular bits. It is not a transfer of responsibility, but a sharing. In economic terms, I reckon we can call trust an extreme nonrival good, as Rishab Aiyer Ghosh would term it. It does not lose value when shared or replicated. In fact I would go further, trust increases the value of the trust-pair.</p>
<p>As we face a war for talent, trust is going to get even more important. You don&#8217;t trust me, then don&#8217;t hire me. If you trust me then trust me. Don&#8217;t play games with me.</p>
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		<title>By: malcolm</title>
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		<dc:creator>malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 11:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The statement of &lt;em&gt;&quot;yes-no&quot;&lt;/em&gt; for a trust relationship is explicitly binary and &lt;em&gt;&quot;I hope we never need to implement hierarchical need-to-know and eyes-only and clearance-level based approaches,&quot;&lt;/em&gt; heavily implies that trust is binary single-celled condiition - no conditions and no caveats. But, of course, there are always caveats and conditions to trust. I &lt;em&gt;trust someone as far as I can throw them&lt;/em&gt; means colloquially that you do not trust someone. Re-engineering that sentence to say &lt;em&gt;I know how far I can throw them&lt;/em&gt; implies they are trusted but only up to a certain point. 

People or organisations can be trusted but more often they are trusted to carry a transfer of responsibility either up to some certain point or absolutely only for a limited number of responsibilities. Where, therefore, is this &lt;em&gt;trust knowledge&lt;/em&gt; stored or is it indeed necessary to store it? Trust in some way - as opposed to confidence as you have talked about previously - is in some way in connected to a transfer of responsibility from one individual or organisation to another. If we cannot define what that responsibility transfer is in some way  then can we define trust?

Or is all this intellectual masturbation :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The statement of <em>&#8220;yes-no&#8221;</em> for a trust relationship is explicitly binary and <em>&#8220;I hope we never need to implement hierarchical need-to-know and eyes-only and clearance-level based approaches,&#8221;</em> heavily implies that trust is binary single-celled condiition &#8211; no conditions and no caveats. But, of course, there are always caveats and conditions to trust. I <em>trust someone as far as I can throw them</em> means colloquially that you do not trust someone. Re-engineering that sentence to say <em>I know how far I can throw them</em> implies they are trusted but only up to a certain point. </p>
<p>People or organisations can be trusted but more often they are trusted to carry a transfer of responsibility either up to some certain point or absolutely only for a limited number of responsibilities. Where, therefore, is this <em>trust knowledge</em> stored or is it indeed necessary to store it? Trust in some way &#8211; as opposed to confidence as you have talked about previously &#8211; is in some way in connected to a transfer of responsibility from one individual or organisation to another. If we cannot define what that responsibility transfer is in some way  then can we define trust?</p>
<p>Or is all this intellectual masturbation :)</p>
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		<title>By: Schmoozer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schmoozer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 02:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when you are protected, trust is much easier, financial institutions and web lending businesses like Zopa, have implemented layers of protection therfore creating a confidence zone, whith a trust model
Is this real trust? or is it artficial trust?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when you are protected, trust is much easier, financial institutions and web lending businesses like Zopa, have implemented layers of protection therfore creating a confidence zone, whith a trust model<br />
Is this real trust? or is it artficial trust?</p>
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