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		<title>By: Why I blog &#171; Luca&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/08/27/why-i-blog-about-what-i-blog-about/comment-page-1/#comment-5910</link>
		<dc:creator>Why I blog &#171; Luca&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rama</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/08/27/why-i-blog-about-what-i-blog-about/comment-page-1/#comment-5868</link>
		<dc:creator>rama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi JP, thanks for your (discussion) clarification on altrusim and the &quot;individual capitalist&quot;. Very necessary. Best, chutki</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi JP, thanks for your (discussion) clarification on altrusim and the &#8220;individual capitalist&#8221;. Very necessary. Best, chutki</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Smoliar</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/08/27/why-i-blog-about-what-i-blog-about/comment-page-1/#comment-5841</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Smoliar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am more familiar with Wilson than with Abbott, having enjoyed every occasion I have had to hear Wilson talk.  However, I think that, in this exchange, there may be a confusion between WHAT WE TALK ABOUT and HOW WE TALK ABOUT IT.  I think that Wilson (along with Abbott, to the extent that I have formed an initial impression of his System) is concerned with order in what we talk about, while Burke is concerned with the domain of how we talk about it.  I have another Burke blog entry that elaborates on this at:

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Mff23hgidqmHGqbcv.lfskakEtS6qLVHUEMFUG4-?cq=1&amp;p=78

From this you may deduce that I also believe that education should pay at least as much attention to &quot;how we talk about it&quot; as it does to &quot;what we talk about,&quot; if not more.  My justification is very much a reflection of my own culture:  I believe strongly that reality is CONSTRUCTED, partly through our subjective experiences but more so through our social experiences.  Thus, our understanding of  what we talk about it is very much a by-product of the conversations we hold;  and those conversations &quot;work best&quot; when we are duly conscientious regarding &quot;how we talk about it.&quot;

I read an interesting comment by Burke while waiting on line to buy Symphony tickets this morning:  &quot;For the most part, political platforms are best analyzed on the rhetorical level, as they are quite careless gramatically.&quot;  For my money this is a clever way of saying that there is not much (if any) &quot;constructed reality&quot; in the text of a political platform, probably because it has been deliberately designed to mean all things to all readers.  An educational system designed to focus on &quot;how we talk about it&quot; should not only attune us to articulating our constructed realities but also make us more aware of the claptrap of others!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am more familiar with Wilson than with Abbott, having enjoyed every occasion I have had to hear Wilson talk.  However, I think that, in this exchange, there may be a confusion between WHAT WE TALK ABOUT and HOW WE TALK ABOUT IT.  I think that Wilson (along with Abbott, to the extent that I have formed an initial impression of his System) is concerned with order in what we talk about, while Burke is concerned with the domain of how we talk about it.  I have another Burke blog entry that elaborates on this at:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Mff23hgidqmHGqbcv.lfskakEtS6qLVHUEMFUG4-?cq=1&#038;p=78" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Mff23hgidqmHGqbcv.lfskakEtS6qLVHUEMFUG4-?cq=1&#038;p=78</a></p>
<p>From this you may deduce that I also believe that education should pay at least as much attention to &#8220;how we talk about it&#8221; as it does to &#8220;what we talk about,&#8221; if not more.  My justification is very much a reflection of my own culture:  I believe strongly that reality is CONSTRUCTED, partly through our subjective experiences but more so through our social experiences.  Thus, our understanding of  what we talk about it is very much a by-product of the conversations we hold;  and those conversations &#8220;work best&#8221; when we are duly conscientious regarding &#8220;how we talk about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I read an interesting comment by Burke while waiting on line to buy Symphony tickets this morning:  &#8220;For the most part, political platforms are best analyzed on the rhetorical level, as they are quite careless gramatically.&#8221;  For my money this is a clever way of saying that there is not much (if any) &#8220;constructed reality&#8221; in the text of a political platform, probably because it has been deliberately designed to mean all things to all readers.  An educational system designed to focus on &#8220;how we talk about it&#8221; should not only attune us to articulating our constructed realities but also make us more aware of the claptrap of others!</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, what&#039;s your take on Abbott&#039;s System of Professions and on Wilson&#039;s Consilience? When you talk of a new framework, one of the first stumbling blocks is in that space; a number of pressures bringing hitherto separate disciplines together, and a number of pressures insisting on keeping them apart.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, what&#8217;s your take on Abbott&#8217;s System of Professions and on Wilson&#8217;s Consilience? When you talk of a new framework, one of the first stumbling blocks is in that space; a number of pressures bringing hitherto separate disciplines together, and a number of pressures insisting on keeping them apart&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Smoliar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Smoliar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP, I am curious about that source you cannot remember with its claim that conversations can be about three things.  My favorite reading these days seems to be Kenneth Burke (as I gradually work my way to the end of A GRAMMAR OF MOTIVES).  My most recent blogging about Burke used him as a stick I could use to beat on IBM&#039;s recent effort to &quot;invent&quot; the concept of &quot;service science&quot; and shape it into an academic discipline:

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Mff23hgidqmHGqbcv.lfskakEtS6qLVHUEMFUG4-?cq=1&amp;p=82

There is a link to an earlier blog entry about Burke there that is more of a summary of some of his key ideas.

In this context of this conversation, however, I would interpret Burke as saying that conversations can be about TWO things (possibly together) and is conducted on three levels (again possibly together).  The two things a conversation can be about are nouns and verbs (or, to make it sound a bit less simplistic, objects and acts).  The three levels on which we conduct the conversation are the grammatical, the rhetorical, and the symbolic.  The grammatical level is where we clarify the categories that shape our understanding of whatever we are talking about (I really hesitate to use the word &quot;ontology&quot; because it has suffered so much absue over the last few decades).  The rhetorical level is where we persuade others of our understandings.  The symbolic level is where we recognize that both the words and the gestures we invoke in that conversation can be (and usually are) SYMBOLS that only acquire meaning by virtue of those OTHERS who &quot;process&quot; them.

I wanted to raise this point, because I think it provides a valuable lens through which we can view both education and blogging.  It was not hard for me to come into the blogosphere because I used to be very active in Usenet groups on both &quot;serious&quot; music and artificial intelligence.  Later I was involved with an intellectual community that coined the phrase &quot;persistent conversation&quot; to characterize the study of this technology and how it was used.  I really like that phrase because it couples the noun-like quality of persistence with the verb-like quality of the ACT of conversation.  This Hegelian synthesis of the noun-based and the verb-based now seems to thrive in the conversation environment of blogs;  and I simply cannot imagine education taking place in the absence of that synthesis.  However, education also has to confront the three levels;  and, if the blogosphere does that it all, it is only by virtue of contributors who choose to honor them.  To some extent, I suppose, those three levels &quot;fit&quot; the mediaeval TRIVIUM, two of them in name (grammar and rhetoric) and one in spirit (logic);  but the SPIRIT behind the levels does not offer as good a &quot;fit.&quot;  The should not surprise:  The context within which we now view education today is quite different from that of the Middle Ages!

My point is that the current vocabulary of subject matter that reflects how universities are organized is now as outmoded as both the TRIVIUM and the QUADRIVIUM.  Whether our conversation involves technology or the humanities, we need a new framework for the education that will prepare us for it (and prepare us to conduct a conversation in which BOTH technology and the humanities figure).  Those of us who can work on that framework will be those of us who are as comfortable with verbs as they are with nouns, and I would like to believe that the blogosphere is the right place to cultivate a culture of individuals prepared for the task!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP, I am curious about that source you cannot remember with its claim that conversations can be about three things.  My favorite reading these days seems to be Kenneth Burke (as I gradually work my way to the end of A GRAMMAR OF MOTIVES).  My most recent blogging about Burke used him as a stick I could use to beat on IBM&#8217;s recent effort to &#8220;invent&#8221; the concept of &#8220;service science&#8221; and shape it into an academic discipline:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Mff23hgidqmHGqbcv.lfskakEtS6qLVHUEMFUG4-?cq=1&#038;p=82" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Mff23hgidqmHGqbcv.lfskakEtS6qLVHUEMFUG4-?cq=1&#038;p=82</a></p>
<p>There is a link to an earlier blog entry about Burke there that is more of a summary of some of his key ideas.</p>
<p>In this context of this conversation, however, I would interpret Burke as saying that conversations can be about TWO things (possibly together) and is conducted on three levels (again possibly together).  The two things a conversation can be about are nouns and verbs (or, to make it sound a bit less simplistic, objects and acts).  The three levels on which we conduct the conversation are the grammatical, the rhetorical, and the symbolic.  The grammatical level is where we clarify the categories that shape our understanding of whatever we are talking about (I really hesitate to use the word &#8220;ontology&#8221; because it has suffered so much absue over the last few decades).  The rhetorical level is where we persuade others of our understandings.  The symbolic level is where we recognize that both the words and the gestures we invoke in that conversation can be (and usually are) SYMBOLS that only acquire meaning by virtue of those OTHERS who &#8220;process&#8221; them.</p>
<p>I wanted to raise this point, because I think it provides a valuable lens through which we can view both education and blogging.  It was not hard for me to come into the blogosphere because I used to be very active in Usenet groups on both &#8220;serious&#8221; music and artificial intelligence.  Later I was involved with an intellectual community that coined the phrase &#8220;persistent conversation&#8221; to characterize the study of this technology and how it was used.  I really like that phrase because it couples the noun-like quality of persistence with the verb-like quality of the ACT of conversation.  This Hegelian synthesis of the noun-based and the verb-based now seems to thrive in the conversation environment of blogs;  and I simply cannot imagine education taking place in the absence of that synthesis.  However, education also has to confront the three levels;  and, if the blogosphere does that it all, it is only by virtue of contributors who choose to honor them.  To some extent, I suppose, those three levels &#8220;fit&#8221; the mediaeval TRIVIUM, two of them in name (grammar and rhetoric) and one in spirit (logic);  but the SPIRIT behind the levels does not offer as good a &#8220;fit.&#8221;  The should not surprise:  The context within which we now view education today is quite different from that of the Middle Ages!</p>
<p>My point is that the current vocabulary of subject matter that reflects how universities are organized is now as outmoded as both the TRIVIUM and the QUADRIVIUM.  Whether our conversation involves technology or the humanities, we need a new framework for the education that will prepare us for it (and prepare us to conduct a conversation in which BOTH technology and the humanities figure).  Those of us who can work on that framework will be those of us who are as comfortable with verbs as they are with nouns, and I would like to believe that the blogosphere is the right place to cultivate a culture of individuals prepared for the task!</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bjorn, Roopsing, welcome to the conversation. And hello again Gordon.
Thanks for all your comments.

Let me try and answer as many of the questions as I can. Remember all they are is one person&#039;s opinion, provisional and vulnerable. I am no oracle, and don&#039;t want to aspire to being one either...

First, the comments by Gordon on individual capitalism. I think that we have avoided this term in the past because we haven&#039;t trusted the individual. We have preferred to believe that any form of altruism is unlikely if not impossible, that man is essentially selfish. And so anyone who dared to venture into this space landed up being accused of utopian thinking at best, and rank stupidity at worst. I think we know more about man&#039;s emotional make-up now (cf Nitin Nohria&#039;s book, Driven; cf Goleman&#039;s Emotional Intelligence; cf Johnson&#039;s Emergence; cf the whole opensource movement). And with consilience amongst professions, we will learn even more. Man was born to bond, to act in community. To be altruistic. To make sacrifices for his family and friends. To belong. So the individual capitalist is not really an individual, but an active agent in a number of communities, only some of which overlap.

Gordon also speaks of the uneasy peace we live in. I think that increased education and enfranchisement will make that peace more durable and less uneasy. When you get a real collective together, a real connected global democracy, with empowered and enfranchised and educated people, the system gets harder to game. Today we have weaknesses that can be exploited by extremists all over the place, for a variety of commercial as well as religious reasons. That&#039;s why Fear and Greed are seen as important drivers. But not for long. [As an aside, I think human beings will blow the whistle against bad behaviour in the community much more openly and transparently going forward, but not in a Salem witch or McCarthyist manner. Peer pressure and peer reviewing and peer recognition are amazing things.

When you can create closed cliques you allow power to corrupt. Openness and transparency are the primary antidotes to corruption. And peer pressure the best prevention.

So I remain optimistic. I think the youth of the sixties saw all this, but the system could be gamed. It was gamed. And they lost.

This time the mob is smarter. The tools are better. And gaming the system will get progressively harder. Especially if we get universal education and enfranchisement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bjorn, Roopsing, welcome to the conversation. And hello again Gordon.<br />
Thanks for all your comments.</p>
<p>Let me try and answer as many of the questions as I can. Remember all they are is one person&#8217;s opinion, provisional and vulnerable. I am no oracle, and don&#8217;t want to aspire to being one either&#8230;</p>
<p>First, the comments by Gordon on individual capitalism. I think that we have avoided this term in the past because we haven&#8217;t trusted the individual. We have preferred to believe that any form of altruism is unlikely if not impossible, that man is essentially selfish. And so anyone who dared to venture into this space landed up being accused of utopian thinking at best, and rank stupidity at worst. I think we know more about man&#8217;s emotional make-up now (cf Nitin Nohria&#8217;s book, Driven; cf Goleman&#8217;s Emotional Intelligence; cf Johnson&#8217;s Emergence; cf the whole opensource movement). And with consilience amongst professions, we will learn even more. Man was born to bond, to act in community. To be altruistic. To make sacrifices for his family and friends. To belong. So the individual capitalist is not really an individual, but an active agent in a number of communities, only some of which overlap.</p>
<p>Gordon also speaks of the uneasy peace we live in. I think that increased education and enfranchisement will make that peace more durable and less uneasy. When you get a real collective together, a real connected global democracy, with empowered and enfranchised and educated people, the system gets harder to game. Today we have weaknesses that can be exploited by extremists all over the place, for a variety of commercial as well as religious reasons. That&#8217;s why Fear and Greed are seen as important drivers. But not for long. [As an aside, I think human beings will blow the whistle against bad behaviour in the community much more openly and transparently going forward, but not in a Salem witch or McCarthyist manner. Peer pressure and peer reviewing and peer recognition are amazing things.</p>
<p>When you can create closed cliques you allow power to corrupt. Openness and transparency are the primary antidotes to corruption. And peer pressure the best prevention.</p>
<p>So I remain optimistic. I think the youth of the sixties saw all this, but the system could be gamed. It was gamed. And they lost.</p>
<p>This time the mob is smarter. The tools are better. And gaming the system will get progressively harder. Especially if we get universal education and enfranchisement.</p>
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		<title>By: Good Old Trend &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The new way of reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>Good Old Trend &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The new way of reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] After hearing JP Rangaswami talk at Reboot in June I knew straight away that I had to start reading his blog regularly. Although mentally exhausting at times (in a good way that is!) I keep coming back and I keep being fascinated by the clarity that he manages to pass on to the reader. And this even though the level of abstraction is high. I strongly recommend anyone interested in the way the internet is changing society to pay him a visit. In a post yesterday he wrote the following: I donâ€™t read blogs to find out things faster than anyone else; I donâ€™t read blogs to find things to link to and comment on before anyone else; I donâ€™t read blogs because I canâ€™t find any books to read. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] After hearing JP Rangaswami talk at Reboot in June I knew straight away that I had to start reading his blog regularly. Although mentally exhausting at times (in a good way that is!) I keep coming back and I keep being fascinated by the clarity that he manages to pass on to the reader. And this even though the level of abstraction is high. I strongly recommend anyone interested in the way the internet is changing society to pay him a visit. In a post yesterday he wrote the following: I donâ€™t read blogs to find out things faster than anyone else; I donâ€™t read blogs to find things to link to and comment on before anyone else; I donâ€™t read blogs because I canâ€™t find any books to read. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Boopsingh Ramsing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Boopsingh Ramsing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
Until I read about u in the latest Linux Journal, you did not exist.
Like all things in this world or universe, it does not exist until someone or something brings it 2 your attention. Now u are real. I read your blogs daily and am fascinated. Where do you get all the time u seem to have. As a professional (partly retired) I still have a major problem &#039; catching up&#039; on things i want and need to do. I also like u want 2 learn and do things but....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
Until I read about u in the latest Linux Journal, you did not exist.<br />
Like all things in this world or universe, it does not exist until someone or something brings it 2 your attention. Now u are real. I read your blogs daily and am fascinated. Where do you get all the time u seem to have. As a professional (partly retired) I still have a major problem &#8216; catching up&#8217; on things i want and need to do. I also like u want 2 learn and do things but&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cook&#8217;s Collaborative Edge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Here&#8217;s a Toast to the &#8220;Idea Blog&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cook&#8217;s Collaborative Edge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Here&#8217;s a Toast to the &#8220;Idea Blog&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 03:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] JP&#8217;s Why I blog about what I blog about leaves a real smile on the face. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] JP&#8217;s Why I blog about what I blog about leaves a real smile on the face. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 03:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe i am beginning to get it?  Here I am browsing and I look at your &quot;about me&quot;  and i see you mention Steven Johnson so I go check him out and wind up here

http://www.discover.com/issues/dec-05/departments/emerging-technology/

Oh Ho!  Of course even i did an interview with Sascha Meinrath on Katrina last September.  provides a pretty good answer to my musings of worry about the system in disaster.  Stronger than FEMA?  You bet!

I have had the New York Times set as my browser home page for a few years now. Read Seymour Hersch in the New Yorker magazine.  Bad :-(

I&#039;d like a plugin for my browser, that would randomly open it to the top pages of the 20 best idea blogs.  I am finding ones I like.  But imag9ine a piece of software that would offer users sets of authoritative blogs on ideas, sports, science, economics, politics, etc - a knowledge tree of blogs .

Tell the software what interesteted you and it might do a myer briggs like analysis on the way you answered the questions and come up with recommendations.

Does such exist?Anyone willing to build it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe i am beginning to get it?  Here I am browsing and I look at your &#8220;about me&#8221;  and i see you mention Steven Johnson so I go check him out and wind up here</p>
<p><a href="http://www.discover.com/issues/dec-05/departments/emerging-technology/" rel="nofollow">http://www.discover.com/issues/dec-05/departments/emerging-technology/</a></p>
<p>Oh Ho!  Of course even i did an interview with Sascha Meinrath on Katrina last September.  provides a pretty good answer to my musings of worry about the system in disaster.  Stronger than FEMA?  You bet!</p>
<p>I have had the New York Times set as my browser home page for a few years now. Read Seymour Hersch in the New Yorker magazine.  Bad :-(</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like a plugin for my browser, that would randomly open it to the top pages of the 20 best idea blogs.  I am finding ones I like.  But imag9ine a piece of software that would offer users sets of authoritative blogs on ideas, sports, science, economics, politics, etc &#8211; a knowledge tree of blogs .</p>
<p>Tell the software what interesteted you and it might do a myer briggs like analysis on the way you answered the questions and come up with recommendations.</p>
<p>Does such exist?Anyone willing to build it?</p>
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