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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/09/03/modern-times/comment-page-1/#comment-6997</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shirazi, welcome. Rgds JP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shirazi, welcome. Rgds JP</p>
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		<title>By: shirazi</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/09/03/modern-times/comment-page-1/#comment-6992</link>
		<dc:creator>shirazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rama sent me here. I have explored thus far and liked it. Will be around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rama sent me here. I have explored thus far and liked it. Will be around.</p>
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		<title>By: The Equity Kicker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Experiences not products</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/09/03/modern-times/comment-page-1/#comment-6890</link>
		<dc:creator>The Equity Kicker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Experiences not products</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The inspiration for this post came from JP Rangaswami and his chatter about DRM, and from Fred and his views on music services. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The inspiration for this post came from JP Rangaswami and his chatter about DRM, and from Fred and his views on music services. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/09/03/modern-times/comment-page-1/#comment-6690</link>
		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP - Kim has a perception problem because he works for Microsoft - and I&#039;ve told him that it&#039;s a hurdle he&#039;ll have to work hard to leap. That said, he is extremely keen for people to understand that the infocard idea is NOT just for MS prisoners ... the Higgins projects has picked it up as well, which is a good thing. I think infocard is a useful step on our mutually-observed identity path.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP &#8211; Kim has a perception problem because he works for Microsoft &#8211; and I&#8217;ve told him that it&#8217;s a hurdle he&#8217;ll have to work hard to leap. That said, he is extremely keen for people to understand that the infocard idea is NOT just for MS prisoners &#8230; the Higgins projects has picked it up as well, which is a good thing. I think infocard is a useful step on our mutually-observed identity path.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/09/03/modern-times/comment-page-1/#comment-6669</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ric, will do. I was being lazy. When the plugin wasn&#039;t found &quot;naturally&quot; I gave up. I do follow Kim&#039;s blog, but get frustrated when anything assumes I have Microsoft and Office and and and. If I had a dollar for every .exe or .zip I have been futilely presented with....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ric, will do. I was being lazy. When the plugin wasn&#8217;t found &#8220;naturally&#8221; I gave up. I do follow Kim&#8217;s blog, but get frustrated when anything assumes I have Microsoft and Office and and and. If I had a dollar for every .exe or .zip I have been futilely presented with&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/09/03/modern-times/comment-page-1/#comment-6661</link>
		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 04:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP - re Kim Cameron&#039;s blog: he is actually using the blog login to allow people to test infocard, which you can try if you are using a strange combination of beta components ex Vista in the Windows world, OR a Firefox plugin from xmldap.org (which is what I use to login to Kim&#039;s blog) - in order to set it up you need to play with it a little (and taking a bit of time to read up on Infocards is useful too), but if you are interested pick up the plugin here: http://xmldap.org/xmldap.xpi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP &#8211; re Kim Cameron&#8217;s blog: he is actually using the blog login to allow people to test infocard, which you can try if you are using a strange combination of beta components ex Vista in the Windows world, OR a Firefox plugin from xmldap.org (which is what I use to login to Kim&#8217;s blog) &#8211; in order to set it up you need to play with it a little (and taking a bit of time to read up on Infocards is useful too), but if you are interested pick up the plugin here: <a href="http://xmldap.org/xmldap.xpi" rel="nofollow">http://xmldap.org/xmldap.xpi</a></p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/09/03/modern-times/comment-page-1/#comment-6640</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory has updated his story, so it now looks like the CD was always 10 audio tracks and nothing more. I have not yet resolved my problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory has updated his story, so it now looks like the CD was always 10 audio tracks and nothing more. I have not yet resolved my problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Smoliar</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/09/03/modern-times/comment-page-1/#comment-6639</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Smoliar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Lars has touched on the most important metaphor in Chaplin&#039;s film.  It is not that we are looking for the bolts to adjust but that some of those bolts have to be adjusted on the turning wheels!  (Remember what happens to Chaplin&#039;s character after he gets on the big--moving--gear to adjust one of its bolts!)

Unfortunately, now that our applications are being &quot;served&quot; through the Web, rather than installed in our own personal computing environments, we are discovering that monitoring and adjusting those bolts is becoming a major problem.  My own blog entry of July 29 argues that current training for the IT industry has not yet come to grips with this problem:

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Mff23hgidqmHGqbcv.lfskakEtS6qLVHUEMFUG4-?cq=1&amp;bid=58&amp;yy=2006&amp;mm=7&amp;p=57

The bottom line is that the distance between the annoyance of importing songs from your new CD to iTunes and the far greater annoyance of your bank&#039;s online service going &quot;off the air&quot; when you wanted to use it to pay your bills is not that great.  I am glad that there are resources like Boing Boing that can help out with the former problem.  The latter problem can probably only be resolved by engaging with your bank;  and, for most banks, that is getting harder and harder to do these days!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Lars has touched on the most important metaphor in Chaplin&#8217;s film.  It is not that we are looking for the bolts to adjust but that some of those bolts have to be adjusted on the turning wheels!  (Remember what happens to Chaplin&#8217;s character after he gets on the big&#8211;moving&#8211;gear to adjust one of its bolts!)</p>
<p>Unfortunately, now that our applications are being &#8220;served&#8221; through the Web, rather than installed in our own personal computing environments, we are discovering that monitoring and adjusting those bolts is becoming a major problem.  My own blog entry of July 29 argues that current training for the IT industry has not yet come to grips with this problem:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Mff23hgidqmHGqbcv.lfskakEtS6qLVHUEMFUG4-?cq=1&amp;bid=58&amp;yy=2006&amp;mm=7&amp;p=57" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Mff23hgidqmHGqbcv.lfskakEtS6qLVHUEMFUG4-?cq=1&amp;bid=58&amp;yy=2006&amp;mm=7&amp;p=57</a></p>
<p>The bottom line is that the distance between the annoyance of importing songs from your new CD to iTunes and the far greater annoyance of your bank&#8217;s online service going &#8220;off the air&#8221; when you wanted to use it to pay your bills is not that great.  I am glad that there are resources like Boing Boing that can help out with the former problem.  The latter problem can probably only be resolved by engaging with your bank;  and, for most banks, that is getting harder and harder to do these days!</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/09/03/modern-times/comment-page-1/#comment-6627</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Josh, I will try the QuickTime as a way of validating the drive. As you state, the video aspect is separate. I guess I was suspicious about the apparent misbehaviour of the CD given the digital download story, and it is possible that these are unconnected. Most of the time I fall for the Walk Like a Duck Talk Like a Duck approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Josh, I will try the QuickTime as a way of validating the drive. As you state, the video aspect is separate. I guess I was suspicious about the apparent misbehaviour of the CD given the digital download story, and it is possible that these are unconnected. Most of the time I fall for the Walk Like a Duck Talk Like a Duck approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/09/03/modern-times/comment-page-1/#comment-6621</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, no offense ... it&#039;s just that you have no evidence that your bug is related to DRM at all.  Boing Boing doesn&#039;t prove the CD has DRM ... in fact if anything they suggest the packaged copy is the &quot;fan friendly&quot; version that you should get if you want to have &quot;control&quot; of everything.

And the &quot;DRM&quot; Cory is railing on about is related to videos, not music, and is mandated by the DCCA.  Apple is simply implenting their license.  Basically Cory is annoyed that he can&#039;t rip audio off of a video track (which no music player lets you do anyay).

Back to Carlos&#039; analysis, which seems accurate, #3 seems the most likely ... but in a sec I&#039;ll offer a fourth.  Most DRM implementations don&#039;t try and crash the application or the operating system.  I&#039;ve had the the same issue with iTunes freaking out and the OS X refusing to acknowledge the disc, causing me to reboot to get the darn thing out.  But that&#039;s generally been because of a poorly burned DVD ( I can&#039;t remember the format ... but one will choke it every time).

Still, the behavior suggests an error deeper than DRM.

The problem may not be between your CD and iTunes ... but could very well be between your CD drive and the CD.  The CD itself may be fine, but if the drive is starting to go - any minor imperfection might start throwing it off.  Try inserting the disc and playing the files off of Quicktime instead of iTunes.

If you can burn them from Windows, you might try burning the MP3&#039;s to a data disc and porting them over that way.  Or even another audio disc might work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, no offense &#8230; it&#8217;s just that you have no evidence that your bug is related to DRM at all.  Boing Boing doesn&#8217;t prove the CD has DRM &#8230; in fact if anything they suggest the packaged copy is the &#8220;fan friendly&#8221; version that you should get if you want to have &#8220;control&#8221; of everything.</p>
<p>And the &#8220;DRM&#8221; Cory is railing on about is related to videos, not music, and is mandated by the DCCA.  Apple is simply implenting their license.  Basically Cory is annoyed that he can&#8217;t rip audio off of a video track (which no music player lets you do anyay).</p>
<p>Back to Carlos&#8217; analysis, which seems accurate, #3 seems the most likely &#8230; but in a sec I&#8217;ll offer a fourth.  Most DRM implementations don&#8217;t try and crash the application or the operating system.  I&#8217;ve had the the same issue with iTunes freaking out and the OS X refusing to acknowledge the disc, causing me to reboot to get the darn thing out.  But that&#8217;s generally been because of a poorly burned DVD ( I can&#8217;t remember the format &#8230; but one will choke it every time).</p>
<p>Still, the behavior suggests an error deeper than DRM.</p>
<p>The problem may not be between your CD and iTunes &#8230; but could very well be between your CD drive and the CD.  The CD itself may be fine, but if the drive is starting to go &#8211; any minor imperfection might start throwing it off.  Try inserting the disc and playing the files off of Quicktime instead of iTunes.</p>
<p>If you can burn them from Windows, you might try burning the MP3&#8217;s to a data disc and porting them over that way.  Or even another audio disc might work.</p>
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