Comments on: On commercial and “second” economies and the Because Effect http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/10/03/on-commercial-and-second-economies-and-the-because-effect/ a blog about information Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:37:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Open Source And Free on iface thoughts http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/10/03/on-commercial-and-second-economies-and-the-because-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-24384 Open Source And Free on iface thoughts Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:37:38 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/10/03/on-commercial-and-second-economies-and-the-because-effect/#comment-24384 [...] I am not against proprietary software, but it would be wrong to say that open source software kills business models. JP puts the perspective nicely: I still think that it will all boil down to the Because Effect. Commercial economies are all about making money With. Gift or shared economies are all about making money Because Of. And the philosophical differences between the two will probably not converge. [...] [...] I am not against proprietary software, but it would be wrong to say that open source software kills business models. JP puts the perspective nicely: I still think that it will all boil down to the Because Effect. Commercial economies are all about making money With. Gift or shared economies are all about making money Because Of. And the philosophical differences between the two will probably not converge. [...]

]]> By: JP http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/10/03/on-commercial-and-second-economies-and-the-because-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-10330 JP Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:18:37 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/10/03/on-commercial-and-second-economies-and-the-because-effect/#comment-10330 It's like paying for water. It may exist in abundance in many places, but not everywhere. Abundance does not necessarily mean ubiquity. You then have a number of acquisition costs.... transportation, packaging, quality control, things that make it easier for you to consume that which is abundant. So you can still impute value to it. But what happens with abundant things is that they can primarily be used as media for exchange, rather than stores of value. And they become media for exchange because the abundant things have had some value impressed upon them, some value added, that differentiates the abundant free thing from the abundant "priced" thing. These are just thoughts, I learn from your questions. Thanks It’s like paying for water. It may exist in abundance in many places, but not everywhere. Abundance does not necessarily mean ubiquity.

You then have a number of acquisition costs…. transportation, packaging, quality control, things that make it easier for you to consume that which is abundant. So you can still impute value to it.

But what happens with abundant things is that they can primarily be used as media for exchange, rather than stores of value. And they become media for exchange because the abundant things have had some value impressed upon them, some value added, that differentiates the abundant free thing from the abundant “priced” thing.

These are just thoughts, I learn from your questions. Thanks

]]> By: Zbigniew Lukasiak http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/10/03/on-commercial-and-second-economies-and-the-because-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-10323 Zbigniew Lukasiak Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:38:42 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/10/03/on-commercial-and-second-economies-and-the-because-effect/#comment-10323 I am no expert in money but I think that it is scarcity that makes things that were precursors of money valuable (gold, sea shells, textile chunks, etc). After all if there is abundance of something why should I accept it as a payment for something when I can have it for free? I am no expert in money but I think that it is scarcity that makes things that were precursors of money valuable (gold, sea shells, textile chunks, etc). After all if there is abundance of something why should I accept it as a payment for something when I can have it for free?

]]> By: JP http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/10/03/on-commercial-and-second-economies-and-the-because-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-10129 JP Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:53:54 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/10/03/on-commercial-and-second-economies-and-the-because-effect/#comment-10129 Money as a store of value or money as a medium of exchange? And in what economic and fiscal conditions, constraints and strategic choices? I don't think of money as defined by scarcity, so I need to understand more. My bad. Money as a store of value or money as a medium of exchange? And in what economic and fiscal conditions, constraints and strategic choices?

I don’t think of money as defined by scarcity, so I need to understand more. My bad.

]]> By: Zbigniew Lukasiak http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/10/03/on-commercial-and-second-economies-and-the-because-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-10125 Zbigniew Lukasiak Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:16:35 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/10/03/on-commercial-and-second-economies-and-the-because-effect/#comment-10125 Hmm - but is money at all compatible with abundance? After all money is defined by scarcity. Hmm – but is money at all compatible with abundance? After all money is defined by scarcity.

]]> By: Michael Bernstein http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/10/03/on-commercial-and-second-economies-and-the-because-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-10012 Michael Bernstein Wed, 04 Oct 2006 00:33:41 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2006/10/03/on-commercial-and-second-economies-and-the-because-effect/#comment-10012 Scarcity is itself getting pretty scarce. So vendors who can provide more of this raw material can rake in the bucks. Scarcity is itself getting pretty scarce. So vendors who can provide more of this raw material can rake in the bucks.

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