Comments on: Alienated by Hollywood http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/01/15/alienated-by-hollywood/ a blog about information Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:37:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: JP http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/01/15/alienated-by-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-83909 JP Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:15:31 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/01/15/alienated-by-hollywood/#comment-83909 Fair point, Beth. When I lived in India USA used to stand for Ullasnagar Sindhi Association, or so I was told :-) I guess in the greater scheme of things everything's a remake, everything is imitation and mashup. A sort of Kurosawa and Seven Samurai question. Personally, I saw the Indian remakes as camp "over-the-top" farce more than piracy. I would watch the Western films, and then see Hindi films that took six or seven plots and put them through a formulaic blender, added song and dance to taste, took the kisses out and finally ensured the Good Guys Won. But I take your point. Fair point, Beth. When I lived in India USA used to stand for Ullasnagar Sindhi Association, or so I was told :-)

I guess in the greater scheme of things everything’s a remake, everything is imitation and mashup. A sort of Kurosawa and Seven Samurai question.

Personally, I saw the Indian remakes as camp “over-the-top” farce more than piracy. I would watch the Western films, and then see Hindi films that took six or seven plots and put them through a formulaic blender, added song and dance to taste, took the kisses out and finally ensured the Good Guys Won.

But I take your point.

]]> By: Beth Watkins http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/01/15/alienated-by-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-83800 Beth Watkins Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:29:37 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/01/15/alienated-by-hollywood/#comment-83800 This is by no means an excuse or defense of what Hollywood did - but the current Indian film industry, as a whole, is certainly not known for proper crediting of other people's scripts and ideas. I wonder what kinds of effects on current Bollywood "remakes" of Hollywood (and Tollywood and...and...and...) there might be if more had been made of this incident thirty years ago? This is by no means an excuse or defense of what Hollywood did – but the current Indian film industry, as a whole, is certainly not known for proper crediting of other people’s scripts and ideas. I wonder what kinds of effects on current Bollywood “remakes” of Hollywood (and Tollywood and…and…and…) there might be if more had been made of this incident thirty years ago?

]]> By: DesiPundit » Archives » Satyajit Ray And DRM http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/01/15/alienated-by-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-82793 DesiPundit » Archives » Satyajit Ray And DRM Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:12:13 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/01/15/alienated-by-hollywood/#comment-82793 [...] Confused of Calcutta on Satyajit Ray, Hollywood and DRM. Apparently he went to Hollywood in 1967 on a mission, to sell a particular project. He wanted to direct a film called The Alien, based on a script he’d written. By the time he got to Hollywood, he found that his script had already (a) done the rounds (b) been copyrighted by someone else and (c) already been acquired by the studio he was dealing with. [...] [...] Confused of Calcutta on Satyajit Ray, Hollywood and DRM. Apparently he went to Hollywood in 1967 on a mission, to sell a particular project. He wanted to direct a film called The Alien, based on a script he’d written. By the time he got to Hollywood, he found that his script had already (a) done the rounds (b) been copyrighted by someone else and (c) already been acquired by the studio he was dealing with. [...]

]]> By: Andrew Yeomans http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/01/15/alienated-by-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-80420 Andrew Yeomans Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:48:58 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/01/15/alienated-by-hollywood/#comment-80420 Having just read EmergingChaos http://www.emergentchaos.com/archives/2007/01/what_congress_can_do_to_p.html I was struck by the parallels. In there, the proposal is that "We need a law to make it so that if Larry lends money to Alice, he cannot try to collect it from Bob." Here we have a case where if Ray creates content it should not be sold by someone else. As for DRM, of course there's a short-term benefit for the vendors if they persuade people to buy into their DRM flavour. Now, there is another application area for the encryption technology, namely data protection for privacy and access management reasons. That would require an "open DRM" or "open Information Protection & Control" standard format, providing the protection to the key-holders, but not permitting that proprietary vendor lock-in. P.S. Best wishes for a rapid recovery. Having just read EmergingChaos http://www.emergentchaos.com/archives/2007/01/what_congress_can_do_to_p.html I was struck by the parallels. In there, the proposal is that “We need a law to make it so that if Larry lends money to Alice, he cannot try to collect it from Bob.” Here we have a case where if Ray creates content it should not be sold by someone else.

As for DRM, of course there’s a short-term benefit for the vendors if they persuade people to buy into their DRM flavour.

Now, there is another application area for the encryption technology, namely data protection for privacy and access management reasons. That would require an “open DRM” or “open Information Protection & Control” standard format, providing the protection to the key-holders, but not permitting that proprietary vendor lock-in.

P.S. Best wishes for a rapid recovery.

]]> By: Dannie Jost http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/01/15/alienated-by-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-75436 Dannie Jost Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:04:35 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/01/15/alienated-by-hollywood/#comment-75436 You got it: "When we finally figure out who gains from all this DRM guff. It’s not the creative guys. It’s not the consumers." Who are WE? You got it: “When we finally figure out who gains from all this DRM guff. It’s not the creative guys. It’s not the consumers.” Who are WE?

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