Comments on: Facebook and the Enterprise: Part 4: Four Pillars http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/ a blog about information Sun, 19 May 2013 11:30:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: JP http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/comment-page-1/#comment-188045 JP Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:43:20 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/#comment-188045 Hi Krishna, welcome to the conversation. I’m particularly keen on seeing people who are involved in education being part of this, because I really feel we can collectively make a real impact there. As Dave the LifeKludger is wont to say, it’s all about access.

]]> By: Krishna Sankar http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/comment-page-1/#comment-187897 Krishna Sankar Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:58:40 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/#comment-187897 Excellent JP. Thanks JP for the insights ! Your observations are true not only for enterprises but also in places where we play & learn ! You have inspired me on an initiative I am working on. Of course, I had to write a blog about it

http://doubleclix.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/publishing-search-fulfilment-and-conversation-as-four-pillars-of-any-software-system/

]]> By: Publishing, Search, Fulfilment and Conversation as four pillars of any software system … « My missives http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/comment-page-1/#comment-187895 Publishing, Search, Fulfilment and Conversation as four pillars of any software system … « My missives Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:53:12 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/#comment-187895 [...] It has happened to me occasionally and had one occasion today when I read JP’s insightful blog “Facebook and the Enterprise: Part 4: Four Pillars” [...]

]]> By: Cook’s Collaborative Edge » Blog Archive » Why Facebook Belongs in The Enterprise http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/comment-page-1/#comment-175208 Cook’s Collaborative Edge » Blog Archive » Why Facebook Belongs in The Enterprise Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:55:12 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/#comment-175208 [...] That’s what Four Pillars is about. Syndication. Search. Conversation. Fulfilment. Where we are. Now. [...]

]]> By: Stephen Smoliar http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/comment-page-1/#comment-172271 Stephen Smoliar Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:12:25 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/#comment-172271 Jonathan, it looks like something got deleted from your comment; so I am not sure WHAT you saw my post as a “metaphor for!” However, I did not intend it as being primarily about a “choice of words.” Rather, I was trying to apply the exercise of “unpacking” as a way of getting at the actual business processes BEHIND the words (since too much of both evangelism and consulting ultimately boils down to what John Cage so aptly called “empty words”). It is only through an appreciation of the complexity of those processes that we can eventually arrive at technologies that solve problems, rather than create more of them!

]]> By: JP http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/comment-page-1/#comment-172261 JP Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:21:57 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/#comment-172261 Not a step-change, Jonathan, it’s more to do with having something I can point to. Four Pillars is a lot easier to describe when you have an example. Which is what my Facebook posts have been about.

Stephen continues to challenge me, I don’t think it’s about semantics, I feel it is a lot more to do with the difference between doing and being; so even when it is hard or I get bored, I still check his posts and references.

In fact I check all posts and references in all the comments I receive, and spend quite a bit of time on the dissenting ones.

That’s how I learn. I would worry about groupthink otherwise. The nice thing about blogs is that they bring together people with common interests rather than common views. We learn from the view differences.

So it is with Stephen and me. I learn from his differences.

]]> By: Jonathan Lister http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/comment-page-1/#comment-172255 Jonathan Lister Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:48:41 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/#comment-172255 JP,

This is becoming a pretty cool series of posts that seems to me like a step-change in the way you see the four pillars being realized.

Stephen’s taking issue with your choice of words, rather than the underlying meaning that the pillars are, to me, a metaphor for.

I think that software in general is becoming simpler and more societally oriented, and this extends through to Enterprise software in the ways you talk about.

]]> By: systematic viewpoints » Blog Archive » He doesn’t sound confused to me http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/comment-page-1/#comment-172203 systematic viewpoints » Blog Archive » He doesn’t sound confused to me Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:43:58 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/#comment-172203 [...] JP Rangaswami speaks of what people really do in the enterprise and how technology can and should assist those human needs. Some sound bites: “…it is only a matter of time before enterprise software consists of only four types of application: publishing, search, fulfillment and conversation.” [...]

]]> By: David http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/comment-page-1/#comment-172144 David Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:19:24 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/#comment-172144 Our brand, our personal identity, what we bring to a business will always be at the core of any career or business we undertake. Yep, I agree. With you too, on the point about learning to listen. If we listen it’s amazing what we learn…

]]> By: Stephen Smoliar http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/comment-page-1/#comment-171982 Stephen Smoliar Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:58:55 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/08/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-4-four-pillars/#comment-171982 JP, I have now repaired the title; I got the spelling right in the body!

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