Comments on: Musing about music and content and walled gardens http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/30/musing-about-music-and-content-and-walled-gardens/ a blog about information Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:37:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Stephen Smoliar http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/30/musing-about-music-and-content-and-walled-gardens/comment-page-1/#comment-181450 Stephen Smoliar Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:15:49 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/30/musing-about-music-and-content-and-walled-gardens/#comment-181450 I feel close enough to the music business (professionally speaking) to post this. Once again it involves invoking the wisdom of Lennie Tristano as a teacher: http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/28/continuing-to-muse-about-facebook-and-enfranchisement/#comment-180967 One of Lennie's most-repeated lessons was, "If you are serious about making music, get a day job!" Throughout his career he wrote well-argued polemics about how commercialization was ruining the practice of jazz (including the experiences of the listeners). As long as the practice of music (whether it involves composing or performing) is viewed through the lens of the supply chain, Lennie's advice will endure! I feel close enough to the music business (professionally speaking) to post this. Once again it involves invoking the wisdom of Lennie Tristano as a teacher:

http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/28/continuing-to-muse-about-facebook-and-enfranchisement/#comment-180967

One of Lennie’s most-repeated lessons was, “If you are serious about making music, get a day job!” Throughout his career he wrote well-argued polemics about how commercialization was ruining the practice of jazz (including the experiences of the listeners). As long as the practice of music (whether it involves composing or performing) is viewed through the lens of the supply chain, Lennie’s advice will endure!

]]> By: John Dodds http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/30/musing-about-music-and-content-and-walled-gardens/comment-page-1/#comment-181345 John Dodds Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:29:48 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/30/musing-about-music-and-content-and-walled-gardens/#comment-181345 I too loathe the content label (both as a consumer and also as someone who has worked in those industries) - but it is the common parlance in the content vs distribution debate. And yes it is a scarcity issue but ultimately a performance only occurs because of a demand for the "content" which used to command a premium but now does not. I too loathe the content label (both as a consumer and also as someone who has worked in those industries) – but it is the common parlance in the content vs distribution debate. And yes it is a scarcity issue but ultimately a performance only occurs because of a demand for the “content” which used to command a premium but now does not.

]]> By: JP http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/30/musing-about-music-and-content-and-walled-gardens/comment-page-1/#comment-181275 JP Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:50:41 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/30/musing-about-music-and-content-and-walled-gardens/#comment-181275 It goes back to the economics of abundance versus scarcity issue, John. Live performances are scarce and can command a premium. Digital time shifted place shifted performances are two a penny. So far I have never heard anyone refer to a live performance as content...for this relief much thanks It goes back to the economics of abundance versus scarcity issue, John. Live performances are scarce and can command a premium. Digital time shifted place shifted performances are two a penny.

So far I have never heard anyone refer to a live performance as content…for this relief much thanks

]]> By: John Dodds http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/30/musing-about-music-and-content-and-walled-gardens/comment-page-1/#comment-181260 John Dodds Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:15:22 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/30/musing-about-music-and-content-and-walled-gardens/#comment-181260 Content will always be king, the question is surely how you define that content and crucially who controls it. Is it the music per se or is it increasingly the music in a live setting (where there is much less of a middleman) that is the valued content? Content will always be king, the question is surely how you define that content and crucially who controls it. Is it the music per se or is it increasingly the music in a live setting (where there is much less of a middleman) that is the valued content?

]]> By: Mario Ruiz http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/30/musing-about-music-and-content-and-walled-gardens/comment-page-1/#comment-181251 Mario Ruiz Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:58:58 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/08/30/musing-about-music-and-content-and-walled-gardens/#comment-181251 Dear JP. In economics, disintermediation is the removal of intermediaries in a supply chain: "cutting out the middleman". The music industry has been affected by the technology every part of the channel by the disintermediation effect. Today you can produce a reasonable quality record with domestic tools. Once you have the music or content (like an audio book) you can go, instead through traditional distribution channels, through the Internet. The crisis of the music industry can be read as resistance for reshape traditional channels (and I would say even traditional artist) that were used to receive their royalties sitting home. The only link that has not penetrated Internet completely is marketing; e.g. the radio stations. Today most of the music get popularized still by the radio stations although there has been some Internet hits along the past two years. Disintermediation is responsible for the freedom of the artist from these past oligopolistic market. The down side effect of it is that even though the artist may gain the same as in the past at the beginning of the career, there will not be no more millionaires as they get nothing for the file sharing malpractices. Mario Ruiz @ http://www.oursheet.com Dear JP.

In economics, disintermediation is the removal of intermediaries in a supply chain: “cutting out the middleman”.

The music industry has been affected by the technology every part of the channel by the disintermediation effect. Today you can produce a reasonable quality record with domestic tools. Once you have the music or content (like an audio book) you can go, instead through traditional distribution channels, through the Internet.

The crisis of the music industry can be read as resistance for reshape traditional channels (and I would say even traditional artist) that were used to receive their royalties sitting home.

The only link that has not penetrated Internet completely is marketing; e.g. the radio stations. Today most of the music get popularized still by the radio stations although there has been some Internet hits along the past two years.

Disintermediation is responsible for the freedom of the artist from these past oligopolistic market. The down side effect of it is that even though the artist may gain the same as in the past at the beginning of the career, there will not be no more millionaires as they get nothing for the file sharing malpractices.

Mario Ruiz
@ http://www.oursheet.com

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