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	<title>Comments on: Losing my marbles: rambling about play in a bygone age</title>
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		<title>By: Soham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And by the way, going through the discussions that preceded my post, I must say, they are really touching. They make me think about what&#039;s going to happen decades from now, after I leave school next year. Thank you for the enlightening reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by the way, going through the discussions that preceded my post, I must say, they are really touching. They make me think about what&#8217;s going to happen decades from now, after I leave school next year. Thank you for the enlightening reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Soham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JP : Apologies from my side as well for having reacted in such a fashion. Well, you probably do understand my sentiments. (The passion and the bond that we all share with our schools). Thank you for having rectified your mistake. Well, the answer to your question is that inter-school sports, as in &quot;track and field&quot; events, is a rarity now. However, there is an abundance in inter-school fests (on-stage as well as off-stage events) and sports tournaments (specially : Football, cricket , basketball and table tennis) . And Marbles? I haven&#039;t ever seen pupils playing with those till date).  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JP : Apologies from my side as well for having reacted in such a fashion. Well, you probably do understand my sentiments. (The passion and the bond that we all share with our schools). Thank you for having rectified your mistake. Well, the answer to your question is that inter-school sports, as in &#8220;track and field&#8221; events, is a rarity now. However, there is an abundance in inter-school fests (on-stage as well as off-stage events) and sports tournaments (specially : Football, cricket , basketball and table tennis) . And Marbles? I haven&#8217;t ever seen pupils playing with those till date).  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@soham my apologies. poorly constructed sentence, you made the correct inference according to the way I wrote it, but it was not what I intended it to mean. I was asking whether inter-school events of that sort still existed, not whether the schools still existed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@soham my apologies. poorly constructed sentence, you made the correct inference according to the way I wrote it, but it was not what I intended it to mean. I was asking whether inter-school events of that sort still existed, not whether the schools still existed.</p>
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		<title>By: Soham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ JP :- Excuse me, your comment seeking information  whether &quot;DBL still exists&quot; is totally uncalled for. Probably you are not at all aware of the present scenario of educational excellence in schools. You are probably of the age of my dad and certainly bear the &quot;high nosed attitude&quot; of SXCS of the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ JP :- Excuse me, your comment seeking information  whether &#8220;DBL still exists&#8221; is totally uncalled for. Probably you are not at all aware of the present scenario of educational excellence in schools. You are probably of the age of my dad and certainly bear the &#8220;high nosed attitude&#8221; of SXCS of the past.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 08:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conqueror! I&#039;d forgotten all about it. Using the dividers to draw the circle in the first place, then hurling them like sharp knives or scalpels into the ground. 

Sharp pointed things flying around. I wonder what today&#039;s risk-averse nanny state would make of it. As far as I can remember, there wasn&#039;t one case of someone being speared by a divider, not even on his toes.

Talking about toes, I seem to remember that being &quot;spiked&quot; was a common accident amongst sprinters. Many of us could not afford foreign spikes, the Indian ones were often cumbersome, so we preferred to run barefoot. And that led to the risk of being spiked, when someone wering spikes trod on another runner&#039;s bare foot. This was only meant to happen on the track, but was known to happen off-track between races as well. I was spiked at least twice, one of which was off-track at an interschool event at Don Bosco Park Circus (or DBPC as we called it, to  distinguish from Don Bosco Liluah or DBL. Do they still exist?)

Actually, the worst athletic accident I remember was that affecting Larry Taya. It must have been 1971, I was in Big School, and was waiting for the shot put event to complete. Then, just as Christopher Hupping threw, Larry ran across the area and into the put, cracking his skull in the process. He seemed fine a few weeks later. I wonder what happened to Larry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conqueror! I&#8217;d forgotten all about it. Using the dividers to draw the circle in the first place, then hurling them like sharp knives or scalpels into the ground. </p>
<p>Sharp pointed things flying around. I wonder what today&#8217;s risk-averse nanny state would make of it. As far as I can remember, there wasn&#8217;t one case of someone being speared by a divider, not even on his toes.</p>
<p>Talking about toes, I seem to remember that being &#8220;spiked&#8221; was a common accident amongst sprinters. Many of us could not afford foreign spikes, the Indian ones were often cumbersome, so we preferred to run barefoot. And that led to the risk of being spiked, when someone wering spikes trod on another runner&#8217;s bare foot. This was only meant to happen on the track, but was known to happen off-track between races as well. I was spiked at least twice, one of which was off-track at an interschool event at Don Bosco Park Circus (or DBPC as we called it, to  distinguish from Don Bosco Liluah or DBL. Do they still exist?)</p>
<p>Actually, the worst athletic accident I remember was that affecting Larry Taya. It must have been 1971, I was in Big School, and was waiting for the shot put event to complete. Then, just as Christopher Hupping threw, Larry ran across the area and into the put, cracking his skull in the process. He seemed fine a few weeks later. I wonder what happened to Larry.</p>
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		<title>By: Viki Saigal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viki Saigal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...I remember &quot;bho kataa&quot; from the kite flying days around january in Calcutta too, and thinking back, I reckon they were the bong-bihari mishmash of the exclamation Woh Kataa...when you managed to dismember another&#039;s kite from its string ....And talking about the evolution up the marbles curve, apart from the chinese ones being the most sought after, there was a neat variant...the steel one&#039;s that came from within a ball bearing. They were lethal because used corectly would chip or break other mortal glass marbles **Sigh** 
Do you remember playing &quot;Conqueror&quot; with the divider from your Globe geometry box - using it like a spear, chucked into the circle drawn in the soft muddy ground ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;I remember &#8220;bho kataa&#8221; from the kite flying days around january in Calcutta too, and thinking back, I reckon they were the bong-bihari mishmash of the exclamation Woh Kataa&#8230;when you managed to dismember another&#8217;s kite from its string &#8230;.And talking about the evolution up the marbles curve, apart from the chinese ones being the most sought after, there was a neat variant&#8230;the steel one&#8217;s that came from within a ball bearing. They were lethal because used corectly would chip or break other mortal glass marbles **Sigh**<br />
Do you remember playing &#8220;Conqueror&#8221; with the divider from your Globe geometry box &#8211; using it like a spear, chucked into the circle drawn in the soft muddy ground ?</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjay Kapoor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanjay Kapoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP, Play in the workplace aside, I don&#039;t think children today will be allowed to indulge in activity you refer to without the pc brigade descending on schools and lecturing them on the possibility of injuries to the  young cherubs such as swollen palms, scraped knuckles, grazed knees and the inevitable encounter with groused parents. 

Anyhow, the picture you paint is very evocative of our childhood. Just to add some other words to that memory; &#039;maanja&#039; (kite string), &#039;kaantch ka maanja&#039; (string with a smear of crushed glass) which could easily slice through fingers if you gave &#039;dheel&#039; (let the reel unwind by itself) to the kite hastily, and &#039;latai&#039; (reel), from which came &#039;lapait&#039;, to take in (literally wrap) endless spoken rubbish. And from the vocbulary of the wooden top, full marks for remembering &#039;gantchha&#039;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP, Play in the workplace aside, I don&#8217;t think children today will be allowed to indulge in activity you refer to without the pc brigade descending on schools and lecturing them on the possibility of injuries to the  young cherubs such as swollen palms, scraped knuckles, grazed knees and the inevitable encounter with groused parents. </p>
<p>Anyhow, the picture you paint is very evocative of our childhood. Just to add some other words to that memory; &#8216;maanja&#8217; (kite string), &#8216;kaantch ka maanja&#8217; (string with a smear of crushed glass) which could easily slice through fingers if you gave &#8216;dheel&#8217; (let the reel unwind by itself) to the kite hastily, and &#8216;latai&#8217; (reel), from which came &#8216;lapait&#8217;, to take in (literally wrap) endless spoken rubbish. And from the vocbulary of the wooden top, full marks for remembering &#8216;gantchha&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>By: James Langley</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Langley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I play ultimate frisbee (perhaps played is a more accurate term) which doesn&#039;t have an umpire/referee.  Instead it is self refereed.  The rules lay down what a foul is and it is the responsibility of the players to call the fouls (in theory this can be either the fouled or fouling player, but in practice it&#039;s always the fouled player).  The rules also specify two routes to resolution of a foul call.  One is for an uncontested foul (both players agree that a foul has been committed) and the other is for a contested foul.

Usually there will be a short(ish) discussion between the players and if agreement cannot be reached, then the contested foul rules will be invoked.  There is an imperative to preserve &quot;the spirit of the game&quot; which is enforced by the community (in fact there is a prize at most tournaments for the most &quot;spirited&quot; team) and this combined with the steps outlined above is usually enough to ensure a fair and free-flowing game.  It is only at the international level where a lot is at stake that the no referees model is breaking down slightly and there are calls for referees to be introduced.

Perhaps this is a model that can be more easily translated to a business context?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I play ultimate frisbee (perhaps played is a more accurate term) which doesn&#8217;t have an umpire/referee.  Instead it is self refereed.  The rules lay down what a foul is and it is the responsibility of the players to call the fouls (in theory this can be either the fouled or fouling player, but in practice it&#8217;s always the fouled player).  The rules also specify two routes to resolution of a foul call.  One is for an uncontested foul (both players agree that a foul has been committed) and the other is for a contested foul.</p>
<p>Usually there will be a short(ish) discussion between the players and if agreement cannot be reached, then the contested foul rules will be invoked.  There is an imperative to preserve &#8220;the spirit of the game&#8221; which is enforced by the community (in fact there is a prize at most tournaments for the most &#8220;spirited&#8221; team) and this combined with the steps outlined above is usually enough to ensure a fair and free-flowing game.  It is only at the international level where a lot is at stake that the no referees model is breaking down slightly and there are calls for referees to be introduced.</p>
<p>Perhaps this is a model that can be more easily translated to a business context?</p>
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		<title>By: Dominic Sayers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominic Sayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You spoke of &quot;the need for authority on a playing field&quot;, and authority is a word that rings my alarm bell.

I think you&#039;re right about this. Sport is not amenable to a community approach to decision making. It&#039;s no good waiting for a consensus to emerge (although that&#039;s how a good many playground LBW decisions are reached).

If the umpire or referee&#039;s objective was to win himself then it would be less easy to believe in this system. Having an absolute authority on the sport field is OK because his role is simply to enable the game, not to empower himself (except Graham Poll, Daryl  Hair, Billy Bowden etc.)

Translating this into a corporate environment is difficult because then the referee is also The Boss. His decisions are made for his own benefit not purely to enable you to do your job as well as you can.

How can we make organisations work more like playing fields?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You spoke of &#8220;the need for authority on a playing field&#8221;, and authority is a word that rings my alarm bell.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right about this. Sport is not amenable to a community approach to decision making. It&#8217;s no good waiting for a consensus to emerge (although that&#8217;s how a good many playground LBW decisions are reached).</p>
<p>If the umpire or referee&#8217;s objective was to win himself then it would be less easy to believe in this system. Having an absolute authority on the sport field is OK because his role is simply to enable the game, not to empower himself (except Graham Poll, Daryl  Hair, Billy Bowden etc.)</p>
<p>Translating this into a corporate environment is difficult because then the referee is also The Boss. His decisions are made for his own benefit not purely to enable you to do your job as well as you can.</p>
<p>How can we make organisations work more like playing fields?</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Balaji, I was rambling in many directions yesterday and didn&#039;t do the necessary graphical illustration. Of course you&#039;re right.

I don&#039;t remember yelling anything when playing tops. What I do remember is I yelled something when having a kite fight. It was something like Bo-kaaattaaa, but memory fades after a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Balaji, I was rambling in many directions yesterday and didn&#8217;t do the necessary graphical illustration. Of course you&#8217;re right.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember yelling anything when playing tops. What I do remember is I yelled something when having a kite fight. It was something like Bo-kaaattaaa, but memory fades after a while.</p>
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