Comments on: Facebook and the Enterprise: Part 9a: Meandering around with ecosystems http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/ a blog about information Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:37:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: A Web That Works » Blog Archive » Firewall http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/comment-page-1/#comment-224085 A Web That Works » Blog Archive » Firewall Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:02:55 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/#comment-224085 [...] Facebook and the Enterprise: Part 9a: Meandering around with ecosystems [...] [...] Facebook and the Enterprise: Part 9a: Meandering around with ecosystems [...]

]]> By: Aseem Naphade http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/comment-page-1/#comment-214589 Aseem Naphade Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:13:42 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/#comment-214589 Thank you Mr JP, there is lots of information to be analyzed from the sources you gave, will go through it and if i have any doubts will get back to you. Thanks once again! Thank you Mr JP, there is lots of information to be analyzed from the sources you gave, will go through it and if i have any doubts will get back to you. Thanks once again!

]]> By: JP http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/comment-page-1/#comment-214447 JP Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:43:17 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/#comment-214447 Hi Aseem, I guess I would start with people like Jane Jacobs and Stewart Brand, and build on from there. Hi Aseem, I guess I would start with people like Jane Jacobs and Stewart Brand, and build on from there.

]]> By: Aseem Naphade http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/comment-page-1/#comment-214295 Aseem Naphade Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:50:12 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/#comment-214295 Hello Mr Rangaswami, Im participating in a debate the topic is "Urbanization improves environment" The improvement has to be with reference to the population and the economic development. Kindly give me some ideas when you find the time. Thanks Aseem Naphade(tiger_canton@yahoo.co.in) Hello Mr Rangaswami, Im participating in a debate the topic is “Urbanization improves environment” The improvement has to be with reference to the population and the economic development. Kindly give me some ideas when you find the time. Thanks
Aseem Naphade(tiger_canton@yahoo.co.in)

]]> By: Yves Caseau http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/comment-page-1/#comment-214271 Yves Caseau Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:27:03 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/#comment-214271 Great post (as usual :)). It is true that Web Services started over http as a way to go through firewalls... On the ecosystem theme, I'd like to add one suggestion: "Out of control" by Kevin Kelly. This is a classic reference about autonomous systems, vivisystems, biomimetics, etc (merging AI, biology and artificial life). Although it now a little dated, it is full of compelling information and details from scientists who study "real ecosystems" (bottom of seas, forests, meadows, etc.). For me, it has been an eye-opener on what a "real" ecosystem is. By the way, the beginning of Jared Diamond's "Collapse: how societies come to fail or succeed" comes to mind also (chapter about Montana). Great post (as usual :)). It is true that Web Services started over http as a way to go through firewalls…
On the ecosystem theme, I’d like to add one suggestion: “Out of control” by Kevin Kelly. This is a classic reference about autonomous systems, vivisystems, biomimetics, etc (merging AI, biology and artificial life). Although it now a little dated, it is full of compelling information and details from scientists who study “real ecosystems” (bottom of seas, forests, meadows, etc.). For me, it has been an eye-opener on what a “real” ecosystem is. By the way, the beginning of Jared Diamond’s “Collapse: how societies come to fail or succeed” comes to mind also (chapter about Montana).

]]> By: Dominic Sayers http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/comment-page-1/#comment-213903 Dominic Sayers Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:58:06 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/#comment-213903 And this, also addressing the open programmability of the paradigm: http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/30/details-revealed-google-opensocial-to-be-common-apis-for-building-social-apps/ And this, also addressing the open programmability of the paradigm: http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/30/details-revealed-google-opensocial-to-be-common-apis-for-building-social-apps/

]]> By: Dominic Sayers http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/comment-page-1/#comment-213813 Dominic Sayers Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:50:22 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/#comment-213813 Did you see this: http://www.idealog.us/2007/10/breaking-open-f.html ? I think you said earlier you are using Facebook as an example of a social system rather than the ne plus ultra system of choice. Assembling an equivalent from open source components would be a giant step away from Facebook's walled garden. Did you see this: http://www.idealog.us/2007/10/breaking-open-f.html ?

I think you said earlier you are using Facebook as an example of a social system rather than the ne plus ultra system of choice.

Assembling an equivalent from open source components would be a giant step away from Facebook’s walled garden.

]]> By: DE http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/comment-page-1/#comment-212645 DE Mon, 29 Oct 2007 01:41:33 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/#comment-212645 "You own your own data. " Not with you on the last point. Bit like saying an author owns the language he or she uses. Or a random string of words he or she used. Or worse, if you somwhow gain ownership of an authors words, the idea is now yours. “You own your own data. ”

Not with you on the last point. Bit like saying an author owns the language he or she uses. Or a random string of words he or she used. Or worse, if you somwhow gain ownership of an authors words, the idea is now yours.

]]> By: Dark 'n' Cold http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/comment-page-1/#comment-210696 Dark 'n' Cold Fri, 26 Oct 2007 01:29:38 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/#comment-210696 “ You own your own you. And with that ownership there comes a set of rights as well as duties. Liberty, not licence.” ☺ great line JP I would like pose the following question, how much does liberty really matters in a social networking platform such as Facebook, and is the real issue to the members of that virtual community one of maximum exposure to a selective audience within that “walled garden” as opposed to the ability to port the embedded attribute (text, pictures, personal details, etc) that constitute the “self” at will? “ You own your own you. And with that ownership there comes a set of rights as well as duties. Liberty, not licence.” ☺ great line JP

I would like pose the following question, how much does liberty really matters in a social networking platform such as Facebook, and is the real issue to the members of that virtual community one of maximum exposure to a selective audience within that “walled garden” as opposed to the ability to port the embedded attribute (text, pictures, personal details, etc) that constitute the “self” at will?

]]> By: Paul Sweeney http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/comment-page-1/#comment-210525 Paul Sweeney Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:17:07 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/10/25/facebook-and-the-enterprise-part-9a-meandering-around-with-ecosystems/#comment-210525 That's a pretty central (sic) point about the firewall ! Yet, if the apps are on the network is this a problem anymore? That’s a pretty central (sic) point about the firewall ! Yet, if the apps are on the network is this a problem anymore?

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