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		<title>By: It&#8217;s called FACEBOOK; namanya Fesbuk bung! &#171; Mencari Wazeenisme</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/11/25/more-musings-about-what-makes-facebook-different/comment-page-1/#comment-520434</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s called FACEBOOK; namanya Fesbuk bung! &#171; Mencari Wazeenisme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 05:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hematku jelas, kata kunci dari jejaring ini cuma satu: Relationship atau hubungan (meski kurang pas ... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Zbigniew Lukasiak</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/11/25/more-musings-about-what-makes-facebook-different/comment-page-1/#comment-232045</link>
		<dc:creator>Zbigniew Lukasiak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And just another link to the list: http://www.somebits.com/weblog/culture/cancelling-facebook.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just another link to the list: <a href="http://www.somebits.com/weblog/culture/cancelling-facebook.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.somebits.com/weblog/culture/cancelling-facebook.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zbigniew Lukasiak</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/11/25/more-musings-about-what-makes-facebook-different/comment-page-1/#comment-231936</link>
		<dc:creator>Zbigniew Lukasiak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi JP,

I must admit - this comment was deliberately so brief - that is a cheap trick, I appologize.  But Umair does have quite substantial arguments for the evilness of Facebook - if you grep his blog just for Facebook you&#039;ll find them.  I will not repeat them here - because I cannot say I get them in their entirety.  But I do think Facebook changes the sides at the point when they constraint user autonomy in the name of revenue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi JP,</p>
<p>I must admit &#8211; this comment was deliberately so brief &#8211; that is a cheap trick, I appologize.  But Umair does have quite substantial arguments for the evilness of Facebook &#8211; if you grep his blog just for Facebook you&#8217;ll find them.  I will not repeat them here &#8211; because I cannot say I get them in their entirety.  But I do think Facebook changes the sides at the point when they constraint user autonomy in the name of revenue.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/11/25/more-musings-about-what-makes-facebook-different/comment-page-1/#comment-231833</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zbigniew, I do read Umair, if you mean the BGSL stuff; I must admit I mainly read the research notes.
Am I missing something? What do you feel I need to follow up?

I tend to agree with Umair that the only firms that will succeed are those who want to make a positive change to the world. The problem begins with defining what a positive change is.

You can see what I stand for. All you need to do is to read The Kernel for This Blog or About This Blog, right at the top of this blog. Not everyone agrees with me.

I believe that artificial scarcity is an abomination, and I&#039;m doing everything I can to counter it wherever I see it.

I think that the pushback against Facebook is overdone. In a strange variant-of-Moore&#039;s-Law way, some people would have me believe that Microsoft took 20 years to &quot;become evil&quot;, Google took 10 and Facebook took 4. 

I don&#039;t buy those arguments. Where do you put Apple in that sequence? What do you say about iTunes or iPod or iPhone? 

That&#039;s why I said I like Facebook in the same way as I like the iPod. Doesn&#039;t mean it can&#039;t get better.

As you can see, I&#039;m intrigued by your brief comment. Tell me more. What am I missing in the BGSL stuff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zbigniew, I do read Umair, if you mean the BGSL stuff; I must admit I mainly read the research notes.<br />
Am I missing something? What do you feel I need to follow up?</p>
<p>I tend to agree with Umair that the only firms that will succeed are those who want to make a positive change to the world. The problem begins with defining what a positive change is.</p>
<p>You can see what I stand for. All you need to do is to read The Kernel for This Blog or About This Blog, right at the top of this blog. Not everyone agrees with me.</p>
<p>I believe that artificial scarcity is an abomination, and I&#8217;m doing everything I can to counter it wherever I see it.</p>
<p>I think that the pushback against Facebook is overdone. In a strange variant-of-Moore&#8217;s-Law way, some people would have me believe that Microsoft took 20 years to &#8220;become evil&#8221;, Google took 10 and Facebook took 4. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy those arguments. Where do you put Apple in that sequence? What do you say about iTunes or iPod or iPhone? </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I said I like Facebook in the same way as I like the iPod. Doesn&#8217;t mean it can&#8217;t get better.</p>
<p>As you can see, I&#8217;m intrigued by your brief comment. Tell me more. What am I missing in the BGSL stuff?</p>
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		<title>By: Zbigniew Lukasiak</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/11/25/more-musings-about-what-makes-facebook-different/comment-page-1/#comment-231825</link>
		<dc:creator>Zbigniew Lukasiak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm - but do you read Umair Haque?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm &#8211; but do you read Umair Haque?</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also thought a lot about Facebook, and while it&#039;s great at relationship management, I don&#039;t take advantage of the min-feeds that you highlight as one of the strong points to learn more about my friends.  I&#039;d still much rather choose my apps for that purpose.  Anyway, I wrote more on this subject a while ago which can be read here: http://blog.iclutton.com/2007/10/facebook-vs-your-favourite-rss-reader.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve also thought a lot about Facebook, and while it&#8217;s great at relationship management, I don&#8217;t take advantage of the min-feeds that you highlight as one of the strong points to learn more about my friends.  I&#8217;d still much rather choose my apps for that purpose.  Anyway, I wrote more on this subject a while ago which can be read here: <a href="http://blog.iclutton.com/2007/10/facebook-vs-your-favourite-rss-reader.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.iclutton.com/2007/10/facebook-vs-your-favourite-rss-reader.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ali Choudhury</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali Choudhury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I joined Facebook in May of this year. I was impressed by how it greatly simplified keeping in touch with people whose addresses, emails and numbers you&#039;d lost. Beyond that, most of the applications in it are useless clutter and I get the feeling it could be made far more useful than it currently is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I joined Facebook in May of this year. I was impressed by how it greatly simplified keeping in touch with people whose addresses, emails and numbers you&#8217;d lost. Beyond that, most of the applications in it are useless clutter and I get the feeling it could be made far more useful than it currently is.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting points, Balaji, Lloyd.

I think the Dunbar number may be shifting, but not by much. My sense is that it is gently heading upwards as a result of our having technical help with our connections, as a result of there being more ways to connect, and as a result of people travelling more often. I believe research is being conducted into this. In any case the number is not going up greatly, the current value could be anything between 200 and maybe 300, against the original 150.

On the subject of scaling we need to bear something in mind. Each subcommunity by itself scales, to the extent that it seems to behave as if it has a Dunbar number for the subcommunity. Each subcommunity has its requirements as well; the work subcommunity requires certain outputs;  the home subcommunity requires certain outputs as well; as long as these output levels are met, all this will scale.

So maybe the key shift as we move into a multiple parallel subcommunity world is a concentration on outputs. Not an expectation on minimum levels of inputs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting points, Balaji, Lloyd.</p>
<p>I think the Dunbar number may be shifting, but not by much. My sense is that it is gently heading upwards as a result of our having technical help with our connections, as a result of there being more ways to connect, and as a result of people travelling more often. I believe research is being conducted into this. In any case the number is not going up greatly, the current value could be anything between 200 and maybe 300, against the original 150.</p>
<p>On the subject of scaling we need to bear something in mind. Each subcommunity by itself scales, to the extent that it seems to behave as if it has a Dunbar number for the subcommunity. Each subcommunity has its requirements as well; the work subcommunity requires certain outputs;  the home subcommunity requires certain outputs as well; as long as these output levels are met, all this will scale.</p>
<p>So maybe the key shift as we move into a multiple parallel subcommunity world is a concentration on outputs. Not an expectation on minimum levels of inputs.</p>
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		<title>By: Balaji Sowmyanarayanan</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/11/25/more-musings-about-what-makes-facebook-different/comment-page-1/#comment-231373</link>
		<dc:creator>Balaji Sowmyanarayanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facebook- Hanging out as a Service is cool/useful/usable only when much smaller percent of the total set is possible connections hangout there. 

If majority of the 7500 of your org are there in the hangout will you( meaning anyone, not just you JP - with you I smell a gogly ) still embrace it with so much enthusiasm? Will you extend your Dunbar limit or will you complain about  overload as in Inbox peeves?

The work life balance argument is similar to (work)telephone helping better relationship with relatives afar, email as source of serendipity. In other words, will the balance scale? No pun intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook- Hanging out as a Service is cool/useful/usable only when much smaller percent of the total set is possible connections hangout there. </p>
<p>If majority of the 7500 of your org are there in the hangout will you( meaning anyone, not just you JP &#8211; with you I smell a gogly ) still embrace it with so much enthusiasm? Will you extend your Dunbar limit or will you complain about  overload as in Inbox peeves?</p>
<p>The work life balance argument is similar to (work)telephone helping better relationship with relatives afar, email as source of serendipity. In other words, will the balance scale? No pun intended.</p>
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		<title>By: Perfect Path</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perfect Path</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (This is the me-focused way of looking at the fact that I belong to multiple communities as JP&#8217;s talking about this morning). This reduces the cognitive load - if we&#8217;re only really comfortable with up to 150 people [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (This is the me-focused way of looking at the fact that I belong to multiple communities as JP&#8217;s talking about this morning). This reduces the cognitive load &#8211; if we&#8217;re only really comfortable with up to 150 people [...]</p>
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