Comments on: Musing about Flickr and YouTube and mobile phone cameras in the enterprise http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/04/29/musing-about-flickr-and-youtube-and-mobile-phone-cameras-in-the-enterprise/ a blog about information Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:37:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Laura "Pistachio" Fitton http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/04/29/musing-about-flickr-and-youtube-and-mobile-phone-cameras-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-332743 Laura "Pistachio" Fitton Sun, 04 May 2008 00:16:02 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/?p=1086#comment-332743 Wonderful - and awful - ERP/supply chain planning example: our local auto parts stealing ring. The gang of kids arrested for stealing the wheels off my car (no joke) had a mobile phone full of pictures of auto parts. This was their "shopping list" of what to go get. If thugs can be this resourceful and efficient, surely companies can also find ways? :-) Wonderful – and awful – ERP/supply chain planning example: our local auto parts stealing ring. The gang of kids arrested for stealing the wheels off my car (no joke) had a mobile phone full of pictures of auto parts. This was their “shopping list” of what to go get. If thugs can be this resourceful and efficient, surely companies can also find ways? :-)

]]> By: Scott Germaise http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/04/29/musing-about-flickr-and-youtube-and-mobile-phone-cameras-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-331112 Scott Germaise Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:31:15 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/?p=1086#comment-331112 Hello JP: First... "When I was young there was an equivalent. People used to do the most amazing things on photocopiers." I wouldn't quite go so far as to say "equivalent." This happened on rare occasion when someone was drunk or foolish. Usually by virtue of the perpetrators own actions. Whereas now, an embarrassing moment, a personally painful moment, can be captured by just about anyone just about anywhere with minimal fuss. And then be distributed so widely and so quickly there's little to no means to stop it. Privacy concerns are contextual, situational, personal, temporal and related to personal control. Today's hand held tech easily impinges on all of these. The random butt cheek on the photocopier - arguably - does not. (Though to be sure, I may have to test this theory at the next office party. Apologies in advance to co-workers.) Second... Using an arcane tag or hash to tag up a shared photo is clever. But really doesn't add much to the value of the folksonomies that such services are looking to create. And for things thought of as at all even somewhat private, the "Security Through Obscurity" point of view is obviously foolish. Though I can potentially see Flickr scavenger hunts for hidden gems maybe being amusing. Lastly... There's already tools/toys out there that let your web enabled cell phone/pda scan ISBN numbers and get more info on books. No need to wait to go all the way home to check. It's probably just a matter of time before these things can read any UPC or RFID as well, and maybe geo-locate the best price near you before you head for the checkout counter. Scott Hello JP:

First…

“When I was young there was an equivalent. People used to do the most amazing things on photocopiers.”

I wouldn’t quite go so far as to say “equivalent.” This happened on rare occasion when someone was drunk or foolish. Usually by virtue of the perpetrators own actions. Whereas now, an embarrassing moment, a personally painful moment, can be captured by just about anyone just about anywhere with minimal fuss. And then be distributed so widely and so quickly there’s little to no means to stop it. Privacy concerns are contextual, situational, personal, temporal and related to personal control. Today’s hand held tech easily impinges on all of these. The random butt cheek on the photocopier – arguably – does not. (Though to be sure, I may have to test this theory at the next office party. Apologies in advance to co-workers.)

Second…
Using an arcane tag or hash to tag up a shared photo is clever. But really doesn’t add much to the value of the folksonomies that such services are looking to create. And for things thought of as at all even somewhat private, the “Security Through Obscurity” point of view is obviously foolish. Though I can potentially see Flickr scavenger hunts for hidden gems maybe being amusing.

Lastly…
There’s already tools/toys out there that let your web enabled cell phone/pda scan ISBN numbers and get more info on books. No need to wait to go all the way home to check. It’s probably just a matter of time before these things can read any UPC or RFID as well, and maybe geo-locate the best price near you before you head for the checkout counter.

Scott

]]> By: Steve Ellwood http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/04/29/musing-about-flickr-and-youtube-and-mobile-phone-cameras-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-330940 Steve Ellwood Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:03:12 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/?p=1086#comment-330940 First really connected phone I got was the BT Broadband Anywhere phone (htc S620). That was a revelation to me. I use it to take photos and not to MMS them but to ping them to flickr. OK, I'm 50 in a few days time, but I thought that was exciting. I can even tweet them through twitpic (OK, I'm learning how to do that) The phone takes a push email feed like my lamented blackberry; but *also* does all my other mail accounts. Oh, and given wifi, I can even make VOIP calls over my home broadband. The phone lets me use Evernote, which in turn lets me take a photo, (and it will do text recognition *off the photo* )and save my link synchronised to the web. I think the technology has now come to where it can be mass adopted by the older folk. 20 years ago, I doubt we'd have expected so many pensioners using email all the time. We have to be ready to learn... First really connected phone I got was the BT Broadband Anywhere phone (htc S620).

That was a revelation to me. I use it to take photos and not to MMS them but to ping them to flickr. OK, I’m 50 in a few days time, but I thought that was exciting. I can even tweet them through twitpic (OK, I’m learning how to do that)

The phone takes a push email feed like my lamented blackberry; but *also* does all my other mail accounts. Oh, and given wifi, I can even make VOIP calls over my home broadband.

The phone lets me use Evernote, which in turn lets me take a photo, (and it will do text recognition *off the photo* )and save my link synchronised to the web.

I think the technology has now come to where it can be mass adopted by the older folk. 20 years ago, I doubt we’d have expected so many pensioners using email all the time.

We have to be ready to learn…

]]> By: Balaji Sowmyanarayanan http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/04/29/musing-about-flickr-and-youtube-and-mobile-phone-cameras-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-330713 Balaji Sowmyanarayanan Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:16:07 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/?p=1086#comment-330713 Time shifting, Place shifting of information. Plus Martini Test( ability to use information the way you like it, the quantity you like, the form you like - shaken not stirred ;) ) is the key thing you are outlining here. In other words information liquidity. Just like how 'personal media player' has evolved into an ecosystem( and made music/entertainment more liquid) Enterprise information tools will have to evolve to make information and eventually knowledge more liquid. Meanwhile, zv54yng31 hacks will be celebrated for the liquidity they provide. Time shifting, Place shifting of information. Plus Martini Test( ability to use information the way you like it, the quantity you like, the form you like – shaken not stirred ;) ) is the key thing you are outlining here. In other words information liquidity.

Just like how ‘personal media player’ has evolved into an ecosystem( and made music/entertainment more liquid) Enterprise information tools will have to evolve to make information and eventually knowledge more liquid.

Meanwhile, zv54yng31 hacks will be celebrated for the liquidity they provide.

]]> By: martin english http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/04/29/musing-about-flickr-and-youtube-and-mobile-phone-cameras-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-330641 martin english Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:01:07 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/?p=1086#comment-330641 I'm curious about the security / confidentiality implications. One of the changes 'generation M' wil lface is that there IS a distinction between work and play - For example, some of our customers won't let you take mobile phones on site, because of the phone / wireless connectivity / etc issues I’m curious about the security / confidentiality implications. One of the changes ‘generation M’ wil lface is that there IS a distinction between work and play – For example, some of our customers won’t let you take mobile phones on site, because of the phone / wireless connectivity / etc issues

]]> By: Gregory Y http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/04/29/musing-about-flickr-and-youtube-and-mobile-phone-cameras-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-330536 Gregory Y Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:10:43 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/?p=1086#comment-330536 It's a great inside. Particularly tips on how you use these tools. There seem to be no special reason or motivation to re-learn how to do things we do with new tools - unless you get exposed to something better. That explains "we have always done that" syndrome and existence of "best practices". I surely will use camera in my phone for the things you have described - it is better than what I can do without. It’s a great inside. Particularly tips on how you use these tools. There seem to be no special reason or motivation to re-learn how to do things we do with new tools – unless you get exposed to something better. That explains “we have always done that” syndrome and existence of “best practices”. I surely will use camera in my phone for the things you have described – it is better than what I can do without.

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