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		<title>By: crc</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/06/23/beneficiary-led-action/comment-page-1/#comment-365644</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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please see link for Heather Havenstein&#039;s report on Enterprise 2.0 in the CIA and DIA- &quot;using Intellipedia, a Wikipedia-like project for its analysts and spies...Despite the early challenges, the CIA now has users on its top secret, secret and sensitive unclassified networks reading and editing a central wiki that has been enhanced with a YouTube-like video channel, a Flickr-like photo-sharing feature, content tagging, blogs and RSS feeds...Intellipedia is built with the same open-source software as Wikipedia, and anyone with access on the various networks can read the posts. Only those users verified as authentic users can edit the content...Web 2.0 has allowed us to create new avenues of dialogue, to allow new ideas to emerge.&quot;
JP, Openness in big organisations!</description>
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please see link for Heather Havenstein&#8217;s report on Enterprise 2.0 in the CIA and DIA- &#8220;using Intellipedia, a Wikipedia-like project for its analysts and spies&#8230;Despite the early challenges, the CIA now has users on its top secret, secret and sensitive unclassified networks reading and editing a central wiki that has been enhanced with a YouTube-like video channel, a Flickr-like photo-sharing feature, content tagging, blogs and RSS feeds&#8230;Intellipedia is built with the same open-source software as Wikipedia, and anyone with access on the various networks can read the posts. Only those users verified as authentic users can edit the content&#8230;Web 2.0 has allowed us to create new avenues of dialogue, to allow new ideas to emerge.&#8221;<br />
JP, Openness in big organisations!</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/06/23/beneficiary-led-action/comment-page-1/#comment-365385</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harsha, this is an important issue, but one that has a simple solution. We all need to get better at not using jargon, and where we use any unusual terms, we should explain the terms either directly (using words) or indirectly (via a hyperlink).

Sean&#039;s use of &quot;rational operator&quot; is not meant to be jargon or unusual, he just meant a normal rational person. Economists love rational human beings... I should know, I&#039;m one. But have I ever met a rational human being? Different question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harsha, this is an important issue, but one that has a simple solution. We all need to get better at not using jargon, and where we use any unusual terms, we should explain the terms either directly (using words) or indirectly (via a hyperlink).</p>
<p>Sean&#8217;s use of &#8220;rational operator&#8221; is not meant to be jargon or unusual, he just meant a normal rational person. Economists love rational human beings&#8230; I should know, I&#8217;m one. But have I ever met a rational human being? Different question.</p>
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		<title>By: Harsha</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/06/23/beneficiary-led-action/comment-page-1/#comment-365356</link>
		<dc:creator>Harsha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey JP,

I am an avid reader of your blog, the most interesting part apart from your content is the kind of Jargon and complex sentences i find in your blog and comments of the readers...

Sample the Sean&#039;s sentence 

&quot; Call it the (large) enterprise tragedy of the commons: clearly all companies need customers to survive, but in sufficiently large/established companies, most employees ‘in the middle’ can safely assume that inertia, reputation, market position, mean that the ‘installed’ base of customers exists and is ‘captured’, so the rational operator asks the ‘Who stands to gain’ question framed in such a way that the answer is ‘me’, ‘my team’ or possibly ‘my department/division’… Of course this is unsustainable over time but that timeline is usually safely longer than the employee’s horizon.&quot;

your blog

&quot;EDI and Edifact and SITPRO, discussing the evolution of automation of trade documents.&quot;


half the time i am googling and using wikipedia, but somethings still remain, like the &quot;rational operator&quot; in Sean&#039;s sentence. 

I understand i am ignorant in many ways, but what is the way out?

Your links to wikipedia are a great help for a start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey JP,</p>
<p>I am an avid reader of your blog, the most interesting part apart from your content is the kind of Jargon and complex sentences i find in your blog and comments of the readers&#8230;</p>
<p>Sample the Sean&#8217;s sentence </p>
<p>&#8221; Call it the (large) enterprise tragedy of the commons: clearly all companies need customers to survive, but in sufficiently large/established companies, most employees ‘in the middle’ can safely assume that inertia, reputation, market position, mean that the ‘installed’ base of customers exists and is ‘captured’, so the rational operator asks the ‘Who stands to gain’ question framed in such a way that the answer is ‘me’, ‘my team’ or possibly ‘my department/division’… Of course this is unsustainable over time but that timeline is usually safely longer than the employee’s horizon.&#8221;</p>
<p>your blog</p>
<p>&#8220;EDI and Edifact and SITPRO, discussing the evolution of automation of trade documents.&#8221;</p>
<p>half the time i am googling and using wikipedia, but somethings still remain, like the &#8220;rational operator&#8221; in Sean&#8217;s sentence. </p>
<p>I understand i am ignorant in many ways, but what is the way out?</p>
<p>Your links to wikipedia are a great help for a start.</p>
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		<title>By: Kishore Balakrishnan&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How can my customer be up to date on items that am working on?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kishore Balakrishnan&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How can my customer be up to date on items that am working on?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in Beneficiary-led action quotes a post of mine [ a wonderful wedding anniversary present  ] and ends with Who benefits? Who [...]</description>
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		<title>By: crc</title>
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		<dc:creator>crc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP, Sean: again, Openness (http://conversationhub.com/2008/06/19/oliver-marks-on-openness-at-supernova/ ) could be the answer to the &#039;Who gains&#039; question and the &#039;to loot or not to loot&#039; problem. I have been part of small teams as well as &#039;mega fauna&#039; and agree with Sean on the &#039;tragedy of the commons&#039;- the agency problem?
However, perhaps we are seeing the emerging convergence of technology, strategic intent and stakeholder participation- using Openness to work for the ultimate goal of maximising value to the customer- thus maximising shareholder value too. JP, your argument that &#039;if you keep cost of failures low, big companies...can be as flexible as small ones&#039; is very true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP, Sean: again, Openness (<a href="http://conversationhub.com/2008/06/19/oliver-marks-on-openness-at-supernova/" rel="nofollow">http://conversationhub.com/2008/06/19/oliver-marks-on-openness-at-supernova/</a> ) could be the answer to the &#8216;Who gains&#8217; question and the &#8216;to loot or not to loot&#8217; problem. I have been part of small teams as well as &#8216;mega fauna&#8217; and agree with Sean on the &#8216;tragedy of the commons&#8217;- the agency problem?<br />
However, perhaps we are seeing the emerging convergence of technology, strategic intent and stakeholder participation- using Openness to work for the ultimate goal of maximising value to the customer- thus maximising shareholder value too. JP, your argument that &#8216;if you keep cost of failures low, big companies&#8230;can be as flexible as small ones&#8217; is very true.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;mega-fauna&#039;  sorry</description>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah but JP,  &quot;...it should always be the customer...&quot;

Well yes. Obviously. But clearly in most large organizations - except for the people at the very top, and hopefully some of the people on the &#039;front line&#039; (ie dealing directly and constantly with said customers) - the answer is very rarely &quot;the customer&quot;.  Call it the (large) enterprise tragedy of the commons:  clearly all companies need customers to survive, but in sufficiently large/established companies, most employees &#039;in the middle&#039; can safely assume that inertia, reputation, market position, mean that the &#039;installed&#039; base of customers exists and is &#039;captured&#039;, so the rational operator asks the &#039;Who stands to gain&#039; question framed in such a way that the answer is &#039;me&#039;, &#039;my team&#039; or possibly &#039;my department/division&#039;...  Of course this is unsustainable over time but that timeline is usually safely longer than the employee&#039;s horizon.  Ironically, even when decline sets in, there is a better than 50/50 chance that this behavior accelerates as the employees decide whether or not it is better to &#039;get what you can while you can&#039; (looting) rather than &#039;get back to basics&#039; (serving their customers.)  Taking the &#039;looting&#039; fork generally happens if they think the company&#039;s structure and culture is irredeemably corrupted.  Worse there is not alot even a smart and motivated CEO can do to fix this.  Giant corporations imo are becoming analogous to the super-fauna of old - as the environment changes they are impossibly configured to adapt and at the same time risk collapsing under their own massive weight that their &#039;skeletal structure&#039; can no longer support.  And the rodents survive and prosper...   Ah thank goodness for creative destruction (otherwise we really would be doomed!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah but JP,  &#8220;&#8230;it should always be the customer&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Well yes. Obviously. But clearly in most large organizations &#8211; except for the people at the very top, and hopefully some of the people on the &#8216;front line&#8217; (ie dealing directly and constantly with said customers) &#8211; the answer is very rarely &#8220;the customer&#8221;.  Call it the (large) enterprise tragedy of the commons:  clearly all companies need customers to survive, but in sufficiently large/established companies, most employees &#8216;in the middle&#8217; can safely assume that inertia, reputation, market position, mean that the &#8216;installed&#8217; base of customers exists and is &#8216;captured&#8217;, so the rational operator asks the &#8216;Who stands to gain&#8217; question framed in such a way that the answer is &#8216;me&#8217;, &#8216;my team&#8217; or possibly &#8216;my department/division&#8217;&#8230;  Of course this is unsustainable over time but that timeline is usually safely longer than the employee&#8217;s horizon.  Ironically, even when decline sets in, there is a better than 50/50 chance that this behavior accelerates as the employees decide whether or not it is better to &#8216;get what you can while you can&#8217; (looting) rather than &#8216;get back to basics&#8217; (serving their customers.)  Taking the &#8216;looting&#8217; fork generally happens if they think the company&#8217;s structure and culture is irredeemably corrupted.  Worse there is not alot even a smart and motivated CEO can do to fix this.  Giant corporations imo are becoming analogous to the super-fauna of old &#8211; as the environment changes they are impossibly configured to adapt and at the same time risk collapsing under their own massive weight that their &#8217;skeletal structure&#8217; can no longer support.  And the rodents survive and prosper&#8230;   Ah thank goodness for creative destruction (otherwise we really would be doomed!)</p>
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		<title>By: crc</title>
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		<dc:creator>crc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP, Openness could be the answer: 
1. the corporate intranet could open with links to internal WikiNews and internal WikiCircular (&#039;anyone can edit&#039;) for anything that is likely to be forwarded in an endless loop; it may as well be shared openly.
2. anything that is not meant for a wider audience could by default, be disabled from being forwarded or being included in the reply; &#039;cut and paste&#039; could also be disabled or tagged in red with a warning.
3. meanwhile, a beginning could be made with a default time delay in the outbox, so that people can check again to see if they really do need to send all those emails to all those people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP, Openness could be the answer:<br />
1. the corporate intranet could open with links to internal WikiNews and internal WikiCircular (&#8216;anyone can edit&#8217;) for anything that is likely to be forwarded in an endless loop; it may as well be shared openly.<br />
2. anything that is not meant for a wider audience could by default, be disabled from being forwarded or being included in the reply; &#8216;cut and paste&#8217; could also be disabled or tagged in red with a warning.<br />
3. meanwhile, a beginning could be made with a default time delay in the outbox, so that people can check again to see if they really do need to send all those emails to all those people.</p>
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