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		<title>By: Martin Budden</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/08/15/musing-about-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-404665</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Budden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was playing on words a bit (as is my wont). There are at least two definitions of leader: the person in front (eg leader in a race) and  the person who sets the agenda (eg political leader). I agree that someone who is a laggard in the first sense can be a leader in the second sense, but my play on words was implying that they were not really deserving of the title of leader. So I would still disagree with the statement:

&quot;There are technology leaders who are laggards in adopting opensource.&quot;

and would rephrase it:

&quot;There are technology managers who are laggards in adopting opensource.&quot;

(Although I do like the oxymoronic quality of your statement.)

Or to go back to your original quote &quot;Leadership is about taking the risk of managing meaning&quot; - the people who are laggards in adopting open source are not managing meaning, therefore they are not exercising leadership, therefore they are not worthy of being called leaders.

Please excuse my pedantry, but leadership is a fairly rare quality and I guess I&#039;m a bit over-sensitive to the term being used undeservedly.

But, yes, I do agree with your underlying sentiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was playing on words a bit (as is my wont). There are at least two definitions of leader: the person in front (eg leader in a race) and  the person who sets the agenda (eg political leader). I agree that someone who is a laggard in the first sense can be a leader in the second sense, but my play on words was implying that they were not really deserving of the title of leader. So I would still disagree with the statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;There are technology leaders who are laggards in adopting opensource.&#8221;</p>
<p>and would rephrase it:</p>
<p>&#8220;There are technology managers who are laggards in adopting opensource.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Although I do like the oxymoronic quality of your statement.)</p>
<p>Or to go back to your original quote &#8220;Leadership is about taking the risk of managing meaning&#8221; &#8211; the people who are laggards in adopting open source are not managing meaning, therefore they are not exercising leadership, therefore they are not worthy of being called leaders.</p>
<p>Please excuse my pedantry, but leadership is a fairly rare quality and I guess I&#8217;m a bit over-sensitive to the term being used undeservedly.</p>
<p>But, yes, I do agree with your underlying sentiment.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be right, Martin, I have no wish to preach or argue with the converted.

There are technology leaders who are laggards in adopting opensource. Their laggardliness does not make them non-leaders.

When I look at the technologies used for the Beijing Olympics, there is much that does not seem opensource, many opportunities that appear to have been wasted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be right, Martin, I have no wish to preach or argue with the converted.</p>
<p>There are technology leaders who are laggards in adopting opensource. Their laggardliness does not make them non-leaders.</p>
<p>When I look at the technologies used for the Beijing Olympics, there is much that does not seem opensource, many opportunities that appear to have been wasted.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Budden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Budden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP,

you say: &quot;Leadership in that strange space where information meets technology is fundamentally bankrupt&quot;. I disagree: you give as an Open Source as example: &quot;As leaders, we allowed ourselves to be drawn into the wrong debate.&quot; Well, no - the people who allowed themselves to be drawn into that debate are not leaders, they are laggards. There are plenty of leaders who realized that that debate was a diversion and went on to capitalize on Open Source.

Similarly the leaders in the IPR domain are having arguments far more sophisticated than those about downloading and stealing.

I&#039;m not worried about the so-called leaders who head off in the wrong direction. Rather than impose their meaning on everyone, they&#039;ll just get lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP,</p>
<p>you say: &#8220;Leadership in that strange space where information meets technology is fundamentally bankrupt&#8221;. I disagree: you give as an Open Source as example: &#8220;As leaders, we allowed ourselves to be drawn into the wrong debate.&#8221; Well, no &#8211; the people who allowed themselves to be drawn into that debate are not leaders, they are laggards. There are plenty of leaders who realized that that debate was a diversion and went on to capitalize on Open Source.</p>
<p>Similarly the leaders in the IPR domain are having arguments far more sophisticated than those about downloading and stealing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not worried about the so-called leaders who head off in the wrong direction. Rather than impose their meaning on everyone, they&#8217;ll just get lost.</p>
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		<title>By: N. Venkatraman</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/08/15/musing-about-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-403979</link>
		<dc:creator>N. Venkatraman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP--to me. leadership is always about framing the debate in such a way to gain maximal support from a broad cross-section of the organization within the different stakeholders. 

More important is the point that your post implies..... beyond leadership.. To me, strategy is about framing the meaning of choices.  One of the best discussions that I have had teaching strategy is to use Graham Allison&#039;s book: Essence of Decision:  Explaining the Cuban Missile Crisis.  It is powerful to understand how decisions are framed and enacted.  By looking at a major decision context, we can see how different insights emerge when questions are framed differently.  The students love that.. and they get it....
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We have not seen that sophisticated understanding of strategy at the interface of information and technology. We still see it as an efficiency driver; we accept it as such--even if we know deep down that IT is more than that.  Simialrly, many managers frame IT Strategy as supporting business strategy. Then, it becomes so difficult to examine how IT strategy can shape and create new business strategies. 
In short: we have seen little creativity when it comes to framing and understanding IT Strategy not just within enterprises but as it impacts the global economy. 
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What we need is more systematic discussions and debates about IT Strategy and Leadership that go beyond context-free generalities.  Truly, leadership involving IT in business contexts (including IPR, Internet and Identity) is more challenging and fascinating than what the current literature on IT leadership has addressed so far. 
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If we fail to understand and frame IT leadership differently, we will leave lot more value on the table...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP&#8211;to me. leadership is always about framing the debate in such a way to gain maximal support from a broad cross-section of the organization within the different stakeholders. </p>
<p>More important is the point that your post implies&#8230;.. beyond leadership.. To me, strategy is about framing the meaning of choices.  One of the best discussions that I have had teaching strategy is to use Graham Allison&#8217;s book: Essence of Decision:  Explaining the Cuban Missile Crisis.  It is powerful to understand how decisions are framed and enacted.  By looking at a major decision context, we can see how different insights emerge when questions are framed differently.  The students love that.. and they get it&#8230;.<br />
&#8211;<br />
We have not seen that sophisticated understanding of strategy at the interface of information and technology. We still see it as an efficiency driver; we accept it as such&#8211;even if we know deep down that IT is more than that.  Simialrly, many managers frame IT Strategy as supporting business strategy. Then, it becomes so difficult to examine how IT strategy can shape and create new business strategies.<br />
In short: we have seen little creativity when it comes to framing and understanding IT Strategy not just within enterprises but as it impacts the global economy.<br />
&#8211;<br />
What we need is more systematic discussions and debates about IT Strategy and Leadership that go beyond context-free generalities.  Truly, leadership involving IT in business contexts (including IPR, Internet and Identity) is more challenging and fascinating than what the current literature on IT leadership has addressed so far.<br />
&#8211;<br />
If we fail to understand and frame IT leadership differently, we will leave lot more value on the table&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gen Kanai</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/08/15/musing-about-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-403685</link>
		<dc:creator>Gen Kanai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: &quot;The discussion of the need to transform the meaning of IPR in a digital context is being shifted into one about free downloads and stealing.&quot;

I agree, and yet there are people who are making significant efforts to change the black/white nature of copyright and enable it for the Internet.  It is all the more important to support efforts such as Creative Commons if you believe such statements.

http://www.businessweek.com/print/globalbiz/content/aug2008/gb20080815_901512.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: &#8220;The discussion of the need to transform the meaning of IPR in a digital context is being shifted into one about free downloads and stealing.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree, and yet there are people who are making significant efforts to change the black/white nature of copyright and enable it for the Internet.  It is all the more important to support efforts such as Creative Commons if you believe such statements.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/print/globalbiz/content/aug2008/gb20080815_901512.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/print/globalbiz/content/aug2008/gb20080815_901512.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/08/15/musing-about-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-402400</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments, guys. I did see the earlier post, a year or so ago, about AIR forking the internet, but not the Stephen O&#039;Grady post of yesterday.

The web is bigger than AOL was; it is bigger than Netscape or IE were; and it will be bigger than AIR or Silverlight or JavaFX.

But that does not mean RIA has no role to play. The web will work it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments, guys. I did see the earlier post, a year or so ago, about AIR forking the internet, but not the Stephen O&#8217;Grady post of yesterday.</p>
<p>The web is bigger than AOL was; it is bigger than Netscape or IE were; and it will be bigger than AIR or Silverlight or JavaFX.</p>
<p>But that does not mean RIA has no role to play. The web will work it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/08/15/musing-about-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-402143</link>
		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP - did you see Stephen O&#039;Grady&#039;s post about the potential for a closed web: http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/08/15/fight-the-future/ - seems to me that there are similar themes in your post as well (although yours is a little less specific than Stephen&#039;s, I think they speak to the same concerns).

Good thinking - you should take more holidays!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP &#8211; did you see Stephen O&#8217;Grady&#8217;s post about the potential for a closed web: <a href="http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/08/15/fight-the-future/" rel="nofollow">http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/08/15/fight-the-future/</a> &#8211; seems to me that there are similar themes in your post as well (although yours is a little less specific than Stephen&#8217;s, I think they speak to the same concerns).</p>
<p>Good thinking &#8211; you should take more holidays!</p>
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		<title>By: mike seyfang</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike seyfang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRAVO!!
I wish I had said that.
(and to quote Monty Python - &#039;you will Oscar, you will...&#039;)

that strange space where information meets technology

is one of those fundamental pressure points that exists in many of the more interesting spaces I have been exploring lately - beyond the world of &#039;CxO management&#039;, in the frontiers of scientific research to the place where art meets science.

The need for leaders to &#039;take risks in managing the meaning of three key concepts: intellectual property rights; the internet; identity&#039; is what I have been banging my head against for the last six months.

Consider me inspired to think more deeply and focus more sharply on those three areas as I try to manage meaning by creating prototypical examples of what might just be possible.

Fang - Mike Seyfang</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRAVO!!<br />
I wish I had said that.<br />
(and to quote Monty Python &#8211; &#8216;you will Oscar, you will&#8230;&#8217;)</p>
<p>that strange space where information meets technology</p>
<p>is one of those fundamental pressure points that exists in many of the more interesting spaces I have been exploring lately &#8211; beyond the world of &#8216;CxO management&#8217;, in the frontiers of scientific research to the place where art meets science.</p>
<p>The need for leaders to &#8216;take risks in managing the meaning of three key concepts: intellectual property rights; the internet; identity&#8217; is what I have been banging my head against for the last six months.</p>
<p>Consider me inspired to think more deeply and focus more sharply on those three areas as I try to manage meaning by creating prototypical examples of what might just be possible.</p>
<p>Fang &#8211; Mike Seyfang</p>
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