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		<title>By: Zubin Wadia</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/10/17/a-minor-non-googleable-question/comment-page-1/#comment-432822</link>
		<dc:creator>Zubin Wadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your initial set of constraints did not specify this. 

So it is, in fact, a possible answer. 

Cricinfo is the source you specified - not Bill &quot;the bearder&quot; Frindall :).

Oh and the number to beat now IS Nelson. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your initial set of constraints did not specify this. </p>
<p>So it is, in fact, a possible answer. </p>
<p>Cricinfo is the source you specified &#8211; not Bill &#8220;the bearder&#8221; Frindall :).</p>
<p>Oh and the number to beat now IS Nelson. :)</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/10/17/a-minor-non-googleable-question/comment-page-1/#comment-432723</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, Zubin, I wish it were as simple as that.

I have always kept with the view that a Test match is played between &quot;Test playing nations&quot;. Multinational representatives sides do not qualify. 

The 1970 England versus ROW series was originally granted Test status; later it was withdrawn. 

There have been a number of other such competitions, each time the principle has been upheld.

The ICC was wrong to give October 2005 match Test status, overthrowing a number of critical precedents.

I quote from Wikipedia:

In 2005 the ICC ruled that the six-day Super Series match that took place in October 2005 between Australia and a World XI was an official Test match. This ICC decision was taken despite precedent (e.g. the ICC&#039;s earlier ruling on the 1970 England v Rest of the World series) that only matches between nations should be given Test match status. Many cricket writers and statisticians, particularly Bill Frindall, have decided to ignore the ICC&#039;s ruling and have excluded the 2005 match from their records.

I&#039;m with Bill on this issue. Good match. But not a Test. And that affects a number of other statistics, I know, but tough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, Zubin, I wish it were as simple as that.</p>
<p>I have always kept with the view that a Test match is played between &#8220;Test playing nations&#8221;. Multinational representatives sides do not qualify. </p>
<p>The 1970 England versus ROW series was originally granted Test status; later it was withdrawn. </p>
<p>There have been a number of other such competitions, each time the principle has been upheld.</p>
<p>The ICC was wrong to give October 2005 match Test status, overthrowing a number of critical precedents.</p>
<p>I quote from Wikipedia:</p>
<p>In 2005 the ICC ruled that the six-day Super Series match that took place in October 2005 between Australia and a World XI was an official Test match. This ICC decision was taken despite precedent (e.g. the ICC&#8217;s earlier ruling on the 1970 England v Rest of the World series) that only matches between nations should be given Test match status. Many cricket writers and statisticians, particularly Bill Frindall, have decided to ignore the ICC&#8217;s ruling and have excluded the 2005 match from their records.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Bill on this issue. Good match. But not a Test. And that affects a number of other statistics, I know, but tough.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dodds</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/10/17/a-minor-non-googleable-question/comment-page-1/#comment-432714</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dodds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notwithstanding your pedantry, the decider must be whether or not the Australians received caps for that match. If they did,  then the ROTW side are surely a test side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notwithstanding your pedantry, the decider must be whether or not the Australians received caps for that match. If they did,  then the ROTW side are surely a test side.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/10/17/a-minor-non-googleable-question/comment-page-1/#comment-432553</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zubin, I did take a look at that scorecard before posting, but only the Australian side. They measured 86. I discounted the Rest of the World side, just don&#039;t think of them as a &quot;Test&quot; team. But you&#039;re right, if I include them, the number is 126!

But I&#039;m a pedant. So I won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zubin, I did take a look at that scorecard before posting, but only the Australian side. They measured 86. I discounted the Rest of the World side, just don&#8217;t think of them as a &#8220;Test&#8221; team. But you&#8217;re right, if I include them, the number is 126!</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m a pedant. So I won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Zubin Wadia</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/10/17/a-minor-non-googleable-question/comment-page-1/#comment-432513</link>
		<dc:creator>Zubin Wadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 05:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty sure the winner is somewhere in the Test 1768 scorecard: 

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/221840.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty sure the winner is somewhere in the Test 1768 scorecard: </p>
<p><a href="http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/221840.html" rel="nofollow">http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/221840.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zubin Wadia</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/10/17/a-minor-non-googleable-question/comment-page-1/#comment-432497</link>
		<dc:creator>Zubin Wadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haynes 18
Greenidge 19
Richards 24
Lloyd 19
Richardson 16
Gomes 9
Dujon 5

Also 110.

But this clearly doesn&#039;t take a temporal context into play because this was 1983 when they first played together... and Lloyd was entering his sunset... 

Super Cat retired in Dec 1984 and Richardson the last of that line-up in 1995. 

Haynes(18), Richardson(16), Lara(34), Chanderpaul(19), Adams(5), Hooper(13), Murray(1) yielding 106 circa 1995 is pretty good too...

I&#039;d take the 1983 line-up any day though... :)

As for the program... 

There have only been 1889 Tests ever played. So that means you have only a finite number of score-cards and batting line-ups to traverse. 

In addition to the line-up, statsguru publishes the batting innings list per player associated to the Test Match number. It goes all the way back to the great Wilfred Rhodes era players. 

With these two &quot;feeds&quot; published by cricinfo... one can attain what I like to call a PITT (Point In Time Tonnage) per player and the sum of that per scorecard = your answer.

Also keep in mind that Test 1889 is still in action and therefore the PITT could increase beyond 110.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haynes 18<br />
Greenidge 19<br />
Richards 24<br />
Lloyd 19<br />
Richardson 16<br />
Gomes 9<br />
Dujon 5</p>
<p>Also 110.</p>
<p>But this clearly doesn&#8217;t take a temporal context into play because this was 1983 when they first played together&#8230; and Lloyd was entering his sunset&#8230; </p>
<p>Super Cat retired in Dec 1984 and Richardson the last of that line-up in 1995. </p>
<p>Haynes(18), Richardson(16), Lara(34), Chanderpaul(19), Adams(5), Hooper(13), Murray(1) yielding 106 circa 1995 is pretty good too&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d take the 1983 line-up any day though&#8230; :)</p>
<p>As for the program&#8230; </p>
<p>There have only been 1889 Tests ever played. So that means you have only a finite number of score-cards and batting line-ups to traverse. </p>
<p>In addition to the line-up, statsguru publishes the batting innings list per player associated to the Test Match number. It goes all the way back to the great Wilfred Rhodes era players. </p>
<p>With these two &#8220;feeds&#8221; published by cricinfo&#8230; one can attain what I like to call a PITT (Point In Time Tonnage) per player and the sum of that per scorecard = your answer.</p>
<p>Also keep in mind that Test 1889 is still in action and therefore the PITT could increase beyond 110.</p>
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/10/17/a-minor-non-googleable-question/comment-page-1/#comment-432196</link>
		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes ...  I think you&#039;ve got me this time. I managed your last one, but this requires logic beyond a Google search box as currently put together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8230;  I think you&#8217;ve got me this time. I managed your last one, but this requires logic beyond a Google search box as currently put together.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dodds</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/10/17/a-minor-non-googleable-question/comment-page-1/#comment-432189</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dodds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say that&#039;s unbeatable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say that&#8217;s unbeatable.</p>
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