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By: alberonmarketing.com » RDFa and Creative Commons

alberonmarketing.com » RDFa and Creative Commons — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:13:09 +0000

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By: Crosbie Ftich

Crosbie Ftich — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:13:53 +0000

I’d like to introduce you to the terrifying possibility that the law is wrong, that a privilege intended for the printing press should not persuade you that people and the Internet should be bent to it, but that copyright should be abolished.

“I will not accept the enslavement of my fellow man, nor any imposition upon his liberty, as reward for the publication of my art”

By: Sonia Marras

Sonia Marras — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:43:40 +0000

The interview posted @ http://www.webscienceman.com/2009/01/24/html-xhtml-html5-future-html/ is really interesting indeed.

By: JP

JP — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:04:43 +0000

Paul, this is where we need TimBL and Joi to be aware of the HTML5 issues, to see what can be done.

By: Paul Downey

Paul Downey — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 11:15:53 +0000

I really like this post, and the resulting conversation. I too am not a fan of DRM, and although I love CC, I’m definitely not a fan of restrictions such as “non-derivatives” and “non-commercial” whatever they may really mean these days.

One nitty technical issue: Joi talks about XHTML as if that was still relevant, and you rightly talk about HTML5. Unfortunately the prospects for being able to meaningfully encode semantics, especially namespaced concepts such as RDFa in HTML5 are still not looking great, and I can’t see how it can be “brought under control” given it possibly has greater momentum than the W3C itself. Adding controls over HTML5 will likely cause a divisive fork. I liked this interview some scary metaphors and sound-bytes, but pretty accurate on the HTML landscape: http://www.webscienceman.com/2009/01/24/html-xhtml-html5-future-html/

By: JP

JP — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:42:25 +0000

thanks for the link, karl. I’d heard about validator, but done nothing about it. sometimes you need conversations like this one to catalyse some action.

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Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:38:33 +0000

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By: karl

karl — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:33:09 +0000

@JP: There is an experimental validation of RDFa in henri sivonen’s validator. http://validator.nu/

It is not per se in the specification but it is actively (and passionately) discussed. You might be pleased to hear that most RDFa processors are able to deal with unfortunate invalid html documents.

By: JP

JP — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:09:01 +0000

Agreed, RDFa has a lot of potential, very useful in reducing process latency, particularly human latency. Still not convinced about where HTML5 was taking it, but that may be as a result of seeing HTML5 seem to veer out of control. I am assured this is no longer the case.

By: Joi Ito

Joi Ito — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:46:31 +0000

Good points. Also, I’m doing the RDFa folks a great disservice by having focused on the piracy part. It was just the context of the conference I was at and the conversations I was having at the time. RDFa does a whole lot more than just copyright stuff and does provide the ability to describe content in many useful ways.