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		<title>By: sanjiv swarup</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/05/05/thinking-about-innovation-and-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-600272</link>
		<dc:creator>sanjiv swarup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 13:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alvin Toffler in one of his books .. was it Megatrends ?
suggested that the way forward is to rubbish the idea of patents.

Which is what you are driving at. 

My take.. 
&gt; Glory be to the intellectual pirates 
&gt; Thumbs down to the businesses that are rent-seeking

I need get my head around how to achieve this utopia
in a gentlemanly manner.. 

Any comments / ideas ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alvin Toffler in one of his books .. was it Megatrends ?<br />
suggested that the way forward is to rubbish the idea of patents.</p>
<p>Which is what you are driving at. </p>
<p>My take..<br />
&gt; Glory be to the intellectual pirates<br />
&gt; Thumbs down to the businesses that are rent-seeking</p>
<p>I need get my head around how to achieve this utopia<br />
in a gentlemanly manner.. </p>
<p>Any comments / ideas ?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Greasley</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/05/05/thinking-about-innovation-and-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-528231</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Greasley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 06:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you seen http://curetogether.com/ which is a step in that direction. I guess drug trials will be a bigger hurdle because of the regulatory frameworks in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen <a href="http://curetogether.com/" rel="nofollow">http://curetogether.com/</a> which is a step in that direction. I guess drug trials will be a bigger hurdle because of the regulatory frameworks in place.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulSweeney</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/05/05/thinking-about-innovation-and-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-523708</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulSweeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 21:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a tangent to the main here: Phase Review Process is patented by Robert G. Cooper, and the excellent book PACE, &quot;Product and Cycle Time Excellence&quot; gives a good introduction. I did a (small) bit of research on medical trials and CEBP and guess what, there&#039;s an application. Medical trials need LOTS of people to partake in late stage trial, because people don&#039;t take their meds on schedule, don&#039;t record their intake properly, and don&#039;t take them EXACTLY when they are supposed to. Using CEBP decreases the amount of people and time you need to run the trial because the trial is run more accurately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a tangent to the main here: Phase Review Process is patented by Robert G. Cooper, and the excellent book PACE, &#8220;Product and Cycle Time Excellence&#8221; gives a good introduction. I did a (small) bit of research on medical trials and CEBP and guess what, there&#8217;s an application. Medical trials need LOTS of people to partake in late stage trial, because people don&#8217;t take their meds on schedule, don&#8217;t record their intake properly, and don&#8217;t take them EXACTLY when they are supposed to. Using CEBP decreases the amount of people and time you need to run the trial because the trial is run more accurately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paramendra Bhagat</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/05/05/thinking-about-innovation-and-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-522710</link>
		<dc:creator>Paramendra Bhagat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 00:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://technbiz.blogspot.com/2009/05/reimagining-office.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://technbiz.blogspot.com/2009/05/reimagining-office.html" rel="nofollow">http://technbiz.blogspot.com/2009/05/reimagining-office.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/05/05/thinking-about-innovation-and-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-522667</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 21:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was quite taken by this reference, tweeted to me by @crc. It is definitely worth a read.

http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2009/05/01/richard-smith-the-polypill-is-about-demedicalisation-not-medicalisation/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was quite taken by this reference, tweeted to me by @crc. It is definitely worth a read.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2009/05/01/richard-smith-the-polypill-is-about-demedicalisation-not-medicalisation/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2009/05/01/richard-smith-the-polypill-is-about-demedicalisation-not-medicalisation/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Wagner</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/05/05/thinking-about-innovation-and-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-522232</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 17:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out www.innocentive.com. That&#039;s where you find open source drug development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out <a href="http://www.innocentive.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.innocentive.com</a>. That&#8217;s where you find open source drug development.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Davidove</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/05/05/thinking-about-innovation-and-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-522051</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Davidove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 07:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People often like to &quot;fondle their hammer&quot; and skip over the value creation question and this limits or diminishes the innovative process.  Too often, in  business settings, we are driven by the need to drive revenue and profit for the &quot;things&quot; we do or have rather than start our thought process from the knowledge of what the &quot;customer&quot; wants or needs.  We also spend too much time trying to protect our ideas and assets and believe this is the stuff the differentiates our competitive advantage.  I look forward to the day when more and more people &quot;think opensource&quot; because this is when we will see some dramatic breakthrough ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People often like to &#8220;fondle their hammer&#8221; and skip over the value creation question and this limits or diminishes the innovative process.  Too often, in  business settings, we are driven by the need to drive revenue and profit for the &#8220;things&#8221; we do or have rather than start our thought process from the knowledge of what the &#8220;customer&#8221; wants or needs.  We also spend too much time trying to protect our ideas and assets and believe this is the stuff the differentiates our competitive advantage.  I look forward to the day when more and more people &#8220;think opensource&#8221; because this is when we will see some dramatic breakthrough ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Smith</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/05/05/thinking-about-innovation-and-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-521758</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks JP,

This made me think and helped me understand some stuff.

But it took me in the other direction to the question you pose at the end.  Made me wonder if as well as the opensource model hinting at a way through pharmacology challenges, there wasn&#039;t the risk of pharmacology problems hinting at where opensource could run into problems too.

Just as the &#039;for-profit&#039; tech industry has hit problems - Moore&#039;s Law meaning leading to businesses being unable to support the products they provide (see Nick Jones of Gartner  http://bit.ly/CDaD1) isn&#039;t there a risk that there are some tasks / problems where the open source approach just requires too much effort to justify doing it without &#039;snake oil-like&#039; commercial engines to drive value realisation?

Haven&#039;t got my head round that properly, and am unable to express clearly - but there&#039;s a reverse to think about, too.  That&#039;s my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks JP,</p>
<p>This made me think and helped me understand some stuff.</p>
<p>But it took me in the other direction to the question you pose at the end.  Made me wonder if as well as the opensource model hinting at a way through pharmacology challenges, there wasn&#8217;t the risk of pharmacology problems hinting at where opensource could run into problems too.</p>
<p>Just as the &#8216;for-profit&#8217; tech industry has hit problems &#8211; Moore&#8217;s Law meaning leading to businesses being unable to support the products they provide (see Nick Jones of Gartner  <a href="http://bit.ly/CDaD1" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/CDaD1</a>) isn&#8217;t there a risk that there are some tasks / problems where the open source approach just requires too much effort to justify doing it without &#8216;snake oil-like&#8217; commercial engines to drive value realisation?</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t got my head round that properly, and am unable to express clearly &#8211; but there&#8217;s a reverse to think about, too.  That&#8217;s my point.</p>
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		<title>By: Rana</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/05/05/thinking-about-innovation-and-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-521517</link>
		<dc:creator>Rana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP, that is good insight, and I fear that you may be right about the cause of the &quot;delay&quot; in this superdrug. 

Yet I still think the best answer remains within the pure scientific process.  One of the commenters above mentioned the excellent work of the Cochrane Group, and I particularly recommend the writing of Dr. Ben Goldacre in his incessant argument for the same issues that concern you, including the need to register all trials even (especially) where they do not show a positive outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP, that is good insight, and I fear that you may be right about the cause of the &#8220;delay&#8221; in this superdrug. </p>
<p>Yet I still think the best answer remains within the pure scientific process.  One of the commenters above mentioned the excellent work of the Cochrane Group, and I particularly recommend the writing of Dr. Ben Goldacre in his incessant argument for the same issues that concern you, including the need to register all trials even (especially) where they do not show a positive outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Rheingold</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/05/05/thinking-about-innovation-and-business-models/comment-page-1/#comment-521508</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Rheingold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 21:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP, I think this summary of an article about &quot;Paying for public goods&quot; will interest you:
http://www.cooperationcommons.com/node/381</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP, I think this summary of an article about &#8220;Paying for public goods&#8221; will interest you:<br />
<a href="http://www.cooperationcommons.com/node/381" rel="nofollow">http://www.cooperationcommons.com/node/381</a></p>
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