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		<title>By: Niklas</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/23/mother-of-invention/comment-page-1/#comment-534690</link>
		<dc:creator>Niklas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry I  wrote a smiley who turned a ?.

I do wish you the very best day and I always read your blog.</description>
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<p>I do wish you the very best day and I always read your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Niklas</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/23/mother-of-invention/comment-page-1/#comment-534689</link>
		<dc:creator>Niklas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have been misinformed. There is no doubt that they set up and owned PRQ, it is known and they have never denied it. The number listed for PRQ in the catalogue still goes to Svartholms old number. Here the largest swedish paper writes about it: http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/pedofilsajt-tar-skydd-av-lagen-1.598221

There has been rage among parents whose children have bought drugs through “Rena Hjul” it was very cleverly disguised as something else and it took some time for the police to shut it down. One mother was invited to my teenage daughters school to tell about her 15-year-old daughter who was hospitalized and damaged since using GBL she had bought at “Rena hjul”. The site that was hosted by PRQ who was owned by Svartholm Varg and Neij until 2008.

And of course you know that the two of them was charged for possession of drugs and theft from a school at the same time they were charged in TPB – case.

Lundström still holds these political views and he is perfectly entitled to them, we are all democrats I hope. This is still what he thinks and says. He is not a racist but as many in Europe he does not want immigration. The assault case he was convicted in is since the 90s though.

I don’t understand in who’s interest one ought to withhold this information? I think it is very naive to see these people as moral highstanders, they are quite ordinary capitalists only prepared to go a bit further.

I understand what you are saying but to me ethics are always of importance and when it comes to freedom, including freedom of speech I can no longer call it that when this kind of hurt for others might be the result. 

But as I understand you see it as their personalities and not of interest in the important work to break up copyright laws, Coelho perhaps thinks the same. 

Have a splendid day ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have been misinformed. There is no doubt that they set up and owned PRQ, it is known and they have never denied it. The number listed for PRQ in the catalogue still goes to Svartholms old number. Here the largest swedish paper writes about it: <a href="http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/pedofilsajt-tar-skydd-av-lagen-1.598221" rel="nofollow">http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/pedofilsajt-tar-skydd-av-lagen-1.598221</a></p>
<p>There has been rage among parents whose children have bought drugs through “Rena Hjul” it was very cleverly disguised as something else and it took some time for the police to shut it down. One mother was invited to my teenage daughters school to tell about her 15-year-old daughter who was hospitalized and damaged since using GBL she had bought at “Rena hjul”. The site that was hosted by PRQ who was owned by Svartholm Varg and Neij until 2008.</p>
<p>And of course you know that the two of them was charged for possession of drugs and theft from a school at the same time they were charged in TPB – case.</p>
<p>Lundström still holds these political views and he is perfectly entitled to them, we are all democrats I hope. This is still what he thinks and says. He is not a racist but as many in Europe he does not want immigration. The assault case he was convicted in is since the 90s though.</p>
<p>I don’t understand in who’s interest one ought to withhold this information? I think it is very naive to see these people as moral highstanders, they are quite ordinary capitalists only prepared to go a bit further.</p>
<p>I understand what you are saying but to me ethics are always of importance and when it comes to freedom, including freedom of speech I can no longer call it that when this kind of hurt for others might be the result. </p>
<p>But as I understand you see it as their personalities and not of interest in the important work to break up copyright laws, Coelho perhaps thinks the same. </p>
<p>Have a splendid day ?</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/23/mother-of-invention/comment-page-1/#comment-534683</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niklas, I don&#039;t know much about the background of the TPB men, but I think you run the risk of being somewhat unfair. 

PRQ distinguished itself from its competition by being willing to host &quot;anyone&quot;, as a formal expression of the right to freedom of speech. They indicated that they were willing to host anyone and anything as long as it was within Swedish law, at least that&#039;s the way I have usually interpreted their stance.

There are always risks to such a position, and you list some of them. I don&#039;t believe there is any evidence that any of the Pirate Bay people have any real and direct links to the sites you mention.

As far as Lundstrom is concerned, I think people are aware of his right wing links in the past; he has apparently kept away from such activities since 1992. But anyway is that material to what is happening with TPB now? 

I think we need to concentrate on the *principles* behind TPB rather than the *personalities*. Otherwise we will find it harder to make progress.

Thank you for taking the time to comment, I hope my response is of value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niklas, I don&#8217;t know much about the background of the TPB men, but I think you run the risk of being somewhat unfair. </p>
<p>PRQ distinguished itself from its competition by being willing to host &#8220;anyone&#8221;, as a formal expression of the right to freedom of speech. They indicated that they were willing to host anyone and anything as long as it was within Swedish law, at least that&#8217;s the way I have usually interpreted their stance.</p>
<p>There are always risks to such a position, and you list some of them. I don&#8217;t believe there is any evidence that any of the Pirate Bay people have any real and direct links to the sites you mention.</p>
<p>As far as Lundstrom is concerned, I think people are aware of his right wing links in the past; he has apparently kept away from such activities since 1992. But anyway is that material to what is happening with TPB now? </p>
<p>I think we need to concentrate on the *principles* behind TPB rather than the *personalities*. Otherwise we will find it harder to make progress.</p>
<p>Thank you for taking the time to comment, I hope my response is of value.</p>
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		<title>By: Niklas</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/23/mother-of-invention/comment-page-1/#comment-534679</link>
		<dc:creator>Niklas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I share your fascination and this was very well written ?

Beside the topic though I sometimes wonder if the good Coelho knows about the background of The Pirate Bay men. I suppose he does since he seems a sincere person and even wanted to come and witness in their benefit.

Two of them Neij and Svartholm Warg used to run a webb-hostel called PRQ that hosted a site where paedophiles could share information: www.pedofil.se. PRQ also hosted another site who sold illegal drugs such as GBL to minors. The police eventually was able to shut it down. In 2008 they got rid of PRQ but a journalist friend tells me they still run it via others. To me this somehow makes their talk about free culture hypocritical. 

One other of the men charged, the capitalist Carl Lundström who provided the money for the original set up for TPB is a rightwing extremist bound to The National Democrats who is working for keeping Sweden to the Swedes.

This seems far away from Coelho’s values but perhaps he considers it as different things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share your fascination and this was very well written ?</p>
<p>Beside the topic though I sometimes wonder if the good Coelho knows about the background of The Pirate Bay men. I suppose he does since he seems a sincere person and even wanted to come and witness in their benefit.</p>
<p>Two of them Neij and Svartholm Warg used to run a webb-hostel called PRQ that hosted a site where paedophiles could share information: <a href="http://www.pedofil.se" rel="nofollow">http://www.pedofil.se</a>. PRQ also hosted another site who sold illegal drugs such as GBL to minors. The police eventually was able to shut it down. In 2008 they got rid of PRQ but a journalist friend tells me they still run it via others. To me this somehow makes their talk about free culture hypocritical. </p>
<p>One other of the men charged, the capitalist Carl Lundström who provided the money for the original set up for TPB is a rightwing extremist bound to The National Democrats who is working for keeping Sweden to the Swedes.</p>
<p>This seems far away from Coelho’s values but perhaps he considers it as different things?</p>
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		<title>By: Raph</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/23/mother-of-invention/comment-page-1/#comment-534404</link>
		<dc:creator>Raph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JP when I was younger I often wondered if some of the big vendors weren&#039;t &#039;managing the market&#039; in official fakes of their development tools.
In the early 90s, it was very expensive to start doing development, yet we saw an explosion of VisualBasic applications, most of which were written by the young and not particularly wealthy. Some of those have gone on to be the most powerful of evangelists for the platform...

Today, of course, open source has changed all that - you download Eclipse or NetBeans; you install linux. Eventually you might pay for IntelliJ or TextMate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JP when I was younger I often wondered if some of the big vendors weren&#8217;t &#8216;managing the market&#8217; in official fakes of their development tools.<br />
In the early 90s, it was very expensive to start doing development, yet we saw an explosion of VisualBasic applications, most of which were written by the young and not particularly wealthy. Some of those have gone on to be the most powerful of evangelists for the platform&#8230;</p>
<p>Today, of course, open source has changed all that &#8211; you download Eclipse or NetBeans; you install linux. Eventually you might pay for IntelliJ or TextMate.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/23/mother-of-invention/comment-page-1/#comment-534303</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@opensourcerer that&#039;s a logical conclusion and a worthwhile twist. Someone who buys a ripoff item, at a time when the real thing is unaffordable, may well become a customer for the more expensive item at a later more affordable stage. That&#039;s an even better reason for Rolex to manage their fakes. There has to be a market for official Rolex fakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@opensourcerer that&#8217;s a logical conclusion and a worthwhile twist. Someone who buys a ripoff item, at a time when the real thing is unaffordable, may well become a customer for the more expensive item at a later more affordable stage. That&#8217;s an even better reason for Rolex to manage their fakes. There has to be a market for official Rolex fakes.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Julian, thanks for the comment. I had seen the article, it&#039;s definitely worth sharing. There is a growing body of evidence that economics-of-abundance pays off in the music and publishing businesses. Hollywood has yet to be convinced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Julian, thanks for the comment. I had seen the article, it&#8217;s definitely worth sharing. There is a growing body of evidence that economics-of-abundance pays off in the music and publishing businesses. Hollywood has yet to be convinced.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/23/mother-of-invention/comment-page-1/#comment-534301</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@simone, thanks for stopping by. I guess I have this perception that pirated DVDs are poorer quality than the real ones, maybe that&#039;s the power of the anti-piracy advertising in the cinemas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@simone, thanks for stopping by. I guess I have this perception that pirated DVDs are poorer quality than the real ones, maybe that&#8217;s the power of the anti-piracy advertising in the cinemas.</p>
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		<title>By: The Open Sourcerer</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/23/mother-of-invention/comment-page-1/#comment-534298</link>
		<dc:creator>The Open Sourcerer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! I bought a knock-off Rolex many years ago in Malaysia for a trivial price because I really liked the look of the &quot;Sub Date&quot;. 

When my &quot;pockets were deeper&quot; I bought the real thing from a Jewellers in Vienna on a whim for about £2k.

I really doubt I&#039;d have bought the real Rolex had I not seen, and worn, a fake previously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! I bought a knock-off Rolex many years ago in Malaysia for a trivial price because I really liked the look of the &#8220;Sub Date&#8221;. </p>
<p>When my &#8220;pockets were deeper&#8221; I bought the real thing from a Jewellers in Vienna on a whim for about £2k.</p>
<p>I really doubt I&#8217;d have bought the real Rolex had I not seen, and worn, a fake previously.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Bennett</title>
		<link>http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/23/mother-of-invention/comment-page-1/#comment-534250</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP,

I&#039;ve just read about this paper (http://www.hbs.edu/research/pdf/09-132.pdf)  which looks at the production of films, music and books and concludes that production has increased since the advent of file-sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just read about this paper (<a href="http://www.hbs.edu/research/pdf/09-132.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.hbs.edu/research/pdf/09-132.pdf</a>)  which looks at the production of films, music and books and concludes that production has increased since the advent of file-sharing.</p>
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