Comments on: Rambling about creativity and capital and content and frames http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/30/rambling-about-creativity-and-capital-and-content-and-frames/ a blog about information Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:20:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: PaulSweeney http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/30/rambling-about-creativity-and-capital-and-content-and-frames/comment-page-1/#comment-535331 PaulSweeney Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:48:39 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/30/rambling-about-creativity-and-capital-and-content-and-frames/#comment-535331 Re: the minor point and the creative response on twitter: I think the fail whale has become a kind of "authorised graffitti wall", the place where the "authorities" give you permission to rebel. Re: the minor point and the creative response on twitter: I think the fail whale has become a kind of “authorised graffitti wall”, the place where the “authorities” give you permission to rebel.

]]> By: Dominic Sayers http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/30/rambling-about-creativity-and-capital-and-content-and-frames/comment-page-1/#comment-534923 Dominic Sayers Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:12:10 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/30/rambling-about-creativity-and-capital-and-content-and-frames/#comment-534923 I'm not claiming to have read Das Kapital in full or to be any sort of economist, but the tension between the generative and secure webs and between financial capital and production capital has a familiar ring. Perhaps we are in the agricultural phase of the web (still!) and we are seeing Primitive Accumulation and the rise of the capitalist farmer? If so, we know what comes next...the Industrial Revolution followed inevitably by political revolution :-) I’m not claiming to have read Das Kapital in full or to be any sort of economist, but the tension between the generative and secure webs and between financial capital and production capital has a familiar ring.

Perhaps we are in the agricultural phase of the web (still!) and we are seeing Primitive Accumulation and the rise of the capitalist farmer?

If so, we know what comes next…the Industrial Revolution followed inevitably by political revolution :-)

]]> By: Kerry http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/30/rambling-about-creativity-and-capital-and-content-and-frames/comment-page-1/#comment-534888 Kerry Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:00:21 +0000 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2009/06/30/rambling-about-creativity-and-capital-and-content-and-frames/#comment-534888 "the difference between financial capital and production capital" as described seems quite similar to Thorstein Veblen's distinction between Business (ie financial capital) and Industry (ie production capital) in his Theory of Business Enterprise (1904). The idea has certainly been around a while but has never caught on in economic theory. I also think Max Weber's spirit of capitalism (the protestant ethic and all that) matches to the production capital side whereas Werner Sombart's ideas on the nature of capitalism tend more toward the financial capital side. The key point is that both sides are needed, just as a balance must be kept between the generative and secure 'aspects' of social networks (not just 'digital' social networks but also 'physical' - refer Scott Berkun's recent blog post on hyping social networks). “the difference between financial capital and production capital” as described seems quite similar to Thorstein Veblen’s distinction between Business (ie financial capital) and Industry (ie production capital) in his Theory of Business Enterprise (1904). The idea has certainly been around a while but has never caught on in economic theory. I also think Max Weber’s spirit of capitalism (the protestant ethic and all that) matches to the production capital side whereas Werner Sombart’s ideas on the nature of capitalism tend more toward the financial capital side.

The key point is that both sides are needed, just as a balance must be kept between the generative and secure ‘aspects’ of social networks (not just ‘digital’ social networks but also ‘physical’ – refer Scott Berkun’s recent blog post on hyping social networks).

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